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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2773359" data-attributes="member: 141">I don't think Limbo is being abolished entirely- it is just no longer the default destination of babies and virtuous pagans who die before being baptized.  In other words, some petitioners who would otherwise have gone there are going somewhere else, instead. It seems likely that the intent is that these petitioners never went there at all- so a little bit of cosmological revisionism is necessary; making it so that they never went there. But it is not like the petitioners were CN- they are generally neutral or good, so ensuring they don't go to Limbo (or are removed if they got there somehow) isn't a big deal.As for how they are doing it, well, I don't know, but consider this: these are theologians of international reputation, so they all should be high level experts with lots of ranks of know:religion.  Think of 30 of them, and what they could accomplish with some kind of ritual/invocation.  Especially a ritual/invocation that takes years to research for just this one task- to redirect some stray petitioners away from an outer plane that doesn't even match their alignment.As for the whole heaven/hell thing- it is pretty clear that "heaven" refers to all the upper planes, and "hell" refers to the lower planes, at least when one talks about the pope's mandate that what binds on earth will be bound in heaven, and the promise that "the gates of hell" will not prevail against him.  Limbo is on the border between the Upper and Lower planes, so is symbolically one of the gates of Hell.  If he wants to bind the souls of these petitioners somewhere in the upper planes, that's certainly within his mandate.I don't know if there is any information on what mystical benefits there are for being the head of a church with several hundred million worshipers, but it should be pretty substantial.  Put the pope and these theologians together, and they should be able to do quite a lot.</blockquote>

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