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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 9547466" data-attributes="member: 4534">That eventually was in 1992, just one year after Vampire was released.&nbsp; I had forgotten how quickly they released a new edition.I don't think anyone is really arguing the entirety of the WoD needs to be thrown out.&nbsp; When Vampire came out, I saw a lot of people, especially women who wouldn't have been caught dead playing AD&amp;D, who were buying books and playing TTRPGs.&nbsp; Before most anyone was talking about diversity, White Wolf brought some of that into their products with characters who were queer, from other cultures, different religions, and even economic backgrounds.&nbsp; They deserve accolades for what they attempted and managed to accomplish.But, oh, boy!&nbsp; Some of White Wolf's material was pretty bad with their sourcebook on the Romani being one of the most often cited examples of how they missed the mark.&nbsp; I'm not going to pillory the authors, but it was clearly a bad decision on their part and I imagine it was a learning experience.I think one problem with 5th edition Vampire is that it makes no bones about your character being an abuser.&nbsp; i.e.&nbsp; They prey on other humans and often times hurt even the ones they love.&nbsp; Even an &quot;ethical&quot; vampire is just one bad day away from hurting the ones they love.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 9547466, member: 4534"] That eventually was in 1992, just one year after Vampire was released. I had forgotten how quickly they released a new edition. I don't think anyone is really arguing the entirety of the WoD needs to be thrown out. When Vampire came out, I saw a lot of people, especially women who wouldn't have been caught dead playing AD&D, who were buying books and playing TTRPGs. Before most anyone was talking about diversity, White Wolf brought some of that into their products with characters who were queer, from other cultures, different religions, and even economic backgrounds. They deserve accolades for what they attempted and managed to accomplish. But, oh, boy! Some of White Wolf's material was pretty bad with their sourcebook on the Romani being one of the most often cited examples of how they missed the mark. I'm not going to pillory the authors, but it was clearly a bad decision on their part and I imagine it was a learning experience. I think one problem with 5th edition Vampire is that it makes no bones about your character being an abuser. i.e. They prey on other humans and often times hurt even the ones they love. Even an "ethical" vampire is just one bad day away from hurting the ones they love. [/QUOTE]

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