PotC: At World's End (reactions, spoilers!)

[Cthulhudrew]

Finally saw this- mostly enjoyed it, though I felt it took too long to get into the movie. The opening scenes (particularly the yawn fest that was the Singapore skirmish) made it really drag.

I just have one question, really- when did Barbossa become a Pirate Lord? Presumably, he was one all along (having given Ragetti his "piece of eight"), but if he was a Pirate Lord, whatever was he doing serving as Jack's first mate back at the dawn of the first film? Shouldn't he have had his own ship and crew?

My guess would be simply that either he or Jack somehow got a hold of one of the pieces of eight secretly (most likely Barbossa, as the other Lords seemed to know Jack pretty well and accept him among their number, although- come to think of it- they seemed to have done the same with Barbossa).

Also, given that there was some consternation over the fact that Jack's untimely demise had left no heir to his title, shouldn't there have been the same at Barbossa's death? (Yet more evidence, IMO, to believe that Barbossa had snagged the eye without the rest of the pirates knowledge).

 

[Klaus]

Finally saw this- mostly enjoyed it, though I felt it took too long to get into the movie. The opening scenes (particularly the yawn fest that was the Singapore skirmish) made it really drag.

I just have one question, really- when did Barbossa become a Pirate Lord? Presumably, he was one all along (having given Ragetti his "piece of eight"), but if he was a Pirate Lord, whatever was he doing serving as Jack's first mate back at the dawn of the first film? Shouldn't he have had his own ship and crew?

My guess would be simply that either he or Jack somehow got a hold of one of the pieces of eight secretly (most likely Barbossa, as the other Lords seemed to know Jack pretty well and accept him among their number, although- come to think of it- they seemed to have done the same with Barbossa).

Also, given that there was some consternation over the fact that Jack's untimely demise had left no heir to his title, shouldn't there have been the same at Barbossa's death? (Yet more evidence, IMO, to believe that Barbossa had snagged the eye without the rest of the pirates knowledge).

Wikipedia says Barbossa is the Pirate Lord of the Caspian Sea. Since that body of water is self-contained, he spends his time elsewhere (namely, the Caribbean Sea).

They only went after Jack because the 9 pieces were needed to free Calypso, and his piece went to Davey Jones' Locker with him. Barbossa's piece remained with Ragetti (would that make Ragetti a Pirate Lord in Barbossa's absence?).

 

[David Howery]

finally saw this a couple of days ago. Nothing wrong with the sets or the acting or the special affects... but the script and the editing weren't so great. Too many scenes dragged on (especially Depp and his fantasies)... and two of the big buildups fell flat (releasing Calypso and the armada vs. the pirate fleet)....

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Wikipedia says Barbossa is the Pirate Lord of the Caspian Sea. Since that body of water is self-contained, he spends his time elsewhere (namely, the Caribbean Sea).

Interesting. Wonder how he became lord of the Caspian?

In any event, it doesn't really explain what he was doing acting as Jack's first mate rather than commanding a ship of his own.

 

[Squire James]

My first thought on that was that Jack Sparrow's daddy (that guy everyone was afraid of)told him to, and B was down on his luck enough that he had to accept. Luck changed, and B seized the opportunity.

 

[Klaus]

Interesting. Wonder how he became lord of the Caspian?

In any event, it doesn't really explain what he was doing acting as Jack's first mate rather than commanding a ship of his own.

My guess? Barbossa was biding his time to lead a mutiny and have the Pearl, the finest ship in the world, for himself.

Which, you know, he did. That dastardly rascal!

 

[Hypersmurf]

I just have one question, really- when did Barbossa become a Pirate Lord? Presumably, he was one all along (having given Ragetti his "piece of eight"), but if he was a Pirate Lord, whatever was he doing serving as Jack's first mate back at the dawn of the first film? Shouldn't he have had his own ship and crew?

Remember, there were ten years between the mutiny and Barbossa's death. I'm assuming he was designated the Caspian Lord's heir some time in that period, and succeeded to the title when the prior Lord died. (Whoever he was.)

It seems unlikely that he would have been Caspian Lord before the mutiny.

-Hyp.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Remember, there were ten years between the mutiny and Barbossa's death. I'm assuming he was designated the Caspian Lord's heir some time in that period, and succeeded to the title when the prior Lord died. (Whoever he was.)

Good point. I'll go with this one.

 

[Abraxas]

This movie was very disappointing - I give it a 3. Overall, the only part I found entertaining was the action sequence at the end.

I thought the interaction between Will & Elizabeth stunk. Elizabeth suddenly becoming a swashbuckling expert was annoying. The multiple Jack's were distracting.

Unlike the other two, there was nothing really funny in this movie (while watching the other two the audience in the theatres I was in actually laughed out loud - it was dead silent this time - except for alot of whispered questions as people were trying to figure out what was going on)

In a number of spots I had difficulty understanding the dialogue, which was particularly bothersome - although I'm not sure if that was due to the film itself or the sound system of the theatre.

Oh, and I'm tired of having to sit through boring credits to see some end bit - if that was never done again I'd be happy, its not like waiting 10 minutes makes the scene any better.

 

[Klaus]

This movie was very disappointing - I give it a 3. Overall, the only part I found entertaining was the action sequence at the end.

I thought the interaction between Will & Elizabeth stunk. Elizabeth suddenly becoming a swashbuckling expert was annoying. The multiple Jack's were distracting.

Unlike the other two, there was nothing really funny in this movie (while watching the other two the audience in the theatres I was in actually laughed out loud - it was dead silent this time - except for alot of whispered questions as people were trying to figure out what was going on)

In a number of spots I had difficulty understanding the dialogue, which was particularly bothersome - although I'm not sure if that was due to the film itself or the sound system of the theatre.

Oh, and I'm tired of having to sit through boring credits to see some end bit - if that was never done again I'd be happy, its not like waiting 10 minutes makes the scene any better.

Elizabeth has, in theory, been serving in a pirate ship for a year or so, and was already good with a sword in PotC1.

There were several LOL moments in the movie for me and Mrs. Klaus, specially involving Jack the Monkey, the gnome artillerist, Gibbs, Jack & Barbossa, and the two side-switching soldiers.

The only Jacks I didn't much care about were the Tiny Jacks. I was expecting one to sport a halo and wings and another with a devil costume to show up.