PrCs and Specialists

[Abraxas]

This question came up in our game last week. The DM asked me to post it here to see what others have to say.

When a specialist wizard gains a level in a PrC that has the benefit of "Spells per Day: +1 level of existing class" does the specialists additional spell/spell level count as normal spells per day or are they one of those "other benefits" like improved chance of controlling or rebuking undead, metamagic or item creation feats, and so on?

 

[kreynolds]

When a specialist wizard gains a level in a PrC that has the benefit of "Spells per Day: +1 level of existing class" does the specialists additional spell/spell level count as normal spells per day or are they one of those "other benefits" like improved chance of controlling or rebuking undead, metamagic or item creation feats, and so on?

Only your effective spellcasting level goes up.

 

[Caliban]

Re: Re: PrCs and Specialists

Only your effective spellcasting level goes up.

No, it's not only your effective spellcasting level. There's a reason it's called "Spells per day/Spells known."

You also increase the number of spells you can cast per day. A specialist wizard who joins a prestige class with this benefit still gets the extra spells per day from his school, because it's his specialty wizard spells per day that's being increased.

A sorcerer also get's their spells known increased as if they had gained another sorcerer level, and a wizard gains two new spells in their spellbook.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Re: PrCs and Specialists

No, it's not only your effective spellcasting level. There's a reason it's called "Spells per day/Spells known."

Caliban, "Spells per day/Spells known" is part of the effective spellcasting level, which is why I didn't follow the path of redundancy.

I should have been more clear, but there's no reason for you to be a jerk about it when I wasn't wrong in the first place.

 

[Abraxas]

Interesting.

At this time, the DM is still leaning toward no additional spells/spell level. He sees these as a bonus, separate from spells/day for the normal wiz.

I believe he is going to allow the player to gain bonus spells for spell levels available to the specialist class on its own - so this summoner 5/PrC 5 gets an additional summoning spell for 0, 1st, 2nd and 3rd levels.

His interpretation - no big deal. I think it may be the PrC itself thats influencing his decision.

Thanx

 

[Caliban]

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Caliban, "Spells per day/Spells known" is part of the effective spellcasting level, which is why I didn't follow the path of redundancy.

I should have been more clear, but there's no reason for you to be a jerk about it when I wasn't wrong in the first place.

Then you shouldn't have said "Only the spellcasting level is increased."

You are more than unclear when you qualify it like that, because it implies that the anwer to his question is "No. "

 

[kreynolds]

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Then you shouldn't have said "Only the spellcasting level is increased."

Yeah. I already said that.