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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 2417631" data-attributes="member: 6562">I'd make things theme-oriented rather than formulaic. Also, note that BAB +1 is not a useful pre-req, since even a Wizard will have that by level 2.To enter Fighter, you need:- Weapon Focus (any)To enter Bard, you need:- 3 ranks in each of two different Performs, or- 3 ranks in each of three Knowleges, or- Skill Focus: Perform (any), or- Skill Focus: Knowlege (any) and Magical Aptitude.To enter Wizard, you need:- 4 ranks each Spellcraft and Knowlege (Arcana), or- 3 ranks each Spellcraft, Craft (Alchemy), and Decypher Script, or- One of those three-cantrip-per-day Feats from Complete Arcane.To enter Sorcerer, you need:- 4 ranks each Concentration & Use Magic Device, and the ability to speak Draconic, or- Magical Aptitude, 4 ranks Concentration & the ability to speak Draconic, or- One of those three-cantrip-per-day Feats from Complete Arcane.To enter Barbarian, you need any two of the following:- 4 ranks Survival- Athletic- Great Fortitude- Run- ToughnessTo enter Rogue, you need any three of the following:- Stealthy- Deceitful- Investigator- Lightning Reflexes- Skill Focus (Hide, Move Silently, Open Locks, Disable Device, or Search)- 3 ranks each Hide & Move Silently- 3 ranks each Spot & Sleight of Hand- 3 ranks each Search & Disable Device- 3 ranks each Bluff & Forgery- 3 ranks each Open Lock & ListenTo enter Druid, you need 3 ranks each Handle Animal, Heal, Kn(Nature) and Survival, and any one of the following:- Iron Will- Track- Self-Sufficient- Skill Focus (Handle Animal, Heal, Kn(Nature) or Survival)To enter Ranger, you need Track, 3 ranks Survival, and any one of the following:- 3 ranks each Hide & Move Silently, or- 3 ranks each Listen & Spot, or- 3 ranks each Heal & Kn(Nature), or- Stealthy, or- Self-Sufficient.To enter Cleric or Paladin, you need 4 ranks Knowledge (Religion).To enter Monk, you need 3 ranks each Tumble, Jump & Balance, and any one of the following:- 6 ranks each Concentration & Kn(Religion), or- Improved Unarmed Strike, or- Lightning Reflexes, or- Dodge & Mobility.... but IMHO if you're going to penalize multi-classing like this, you should give a little bonus at 1st level, based on class. (1st character level, not 1st class level if they multi-class.)Barbarian: ToughnessBard: 4 ranks Perform in two different instrumentsCleric: 4 ranks Kn(Religion)Druid: 2 ranks each Survival & Kn(Nature)Fighter: Weapon Focus (any Simple or Martial weapon)Monk: 4 ranks ConcentrationPaladin: 4 ranks Kn(Religion)Ranger: 2 ranks each Survival and Kn(Nature)Rogue: Skill Focus (any)Sorcerer: 4 ranks ConcentrationWizard: 4 ranks SpellcraftYes, these are all things they probably would have taken anyway... but that's kinda the point. Now they can spend their 1st level Feats & Skill points on stuff to make them more individual.Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

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