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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 2418922" data-attributes="member: 467">These are good points, and a counter opinion is (almost) always helpful.&nbsp; As I said, it really isn't an issue if you start characters off at 2nd level -- which will encompass most multiclass concepts.&nbsp; I guess my intent was to avoid the situation where the 8th level fighter suddenly decided to pick up a level of Wizard for no other reason than to be able to use a ray wand with his high BAB.&nbsp; But you're right -- any mechanical requirement is ultimately going to result in &quot;wasted&quot; skill points, feats, etc...Here is the question, then: A player with a 8th level fighter tells you he is going to take a level in Wizard when he hits 9th, despite his character never showing the slightest inclination toward magic or spell casting.&nbsp; You can't really tell him he can't take the wizard level -- it isn't a PrC and therefore isn't 'protected' by DM fiat.&nbsp; What do you do, in conjunction with the player,&nbsp; in order to preserve the continuity and/or versimilitude of the character and the game?&nbsp; What if the player is doing it for what he sees as optimation reasons, as opposed to character ones?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 2418922, member: 467"] These are good points, and a counter opinion is (almost) always helpful. As I said, it really isn't an issue if you start characters off at 2nd level -- which will encompass most multiclass concepts. I guess my intent was to avoid the situation where the 8th level fighter suddenly decided to pick up a level of Wizard for no other reason than to be able to use a ray wand with his high BAB. But you're right -- any mechanical requirement is ultimately going to result in "wasted" skill points, feats, etc... Here is the question, then: A player with a 8th level fighter tells you he is going to take a level in Wizard when he hits 9th, despite his character never showing the slightest inclination toward magic or spell casting. You can't really tell him he can't take the wizard level -- it isn't a PrC and therefore isn't 'protected' by DM fiat. What do you do, in conjunction with the player, in order to preserve the continuity and/or versimilitude of the character and the game? What if the player is doing it for what he sees as optimation reasons, as opposed to character ones? [/QUOTE]

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