Frostmarrow
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The planes should have an uncertainty clause. "What you read here cannot be trusted. The planes seem to shift as we study them. Sometimes they change just by being studied."
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The planes should have an uncertainty clause. "What you read here cannot be trusted. The planes seem to shift as we study them. Sometimes they change just by being studied."
frankthedm
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Probably just keywords that don't do much unless comboed with powers or magic items.
yesnomu
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Heh heh heh... Planar Shepherd, back from the dead! Hopefully even more broken this time!
EDIT: From the Martial Power thread, Invigorating powers grant Temp HP if you're trained in Endurance, and Rattling ones give an attack penalty (ugh) if you're trained in Intimidate.
Seriously, every member of a party will be able to have attack penalty powers at this rate. Penalties are really going to have to be typed.
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ppaladin123
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Check out the RPGA character creation guide for LFR. In the "material allowed" section, manual of the planes is listed with the proviso, "paragon paths only."
questing gm
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questing gm
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Shemeska
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I worry that it's a strong hint that any use of those settings is going to strictly adapt/forcefit them to using the 4e MotP cosmology rather than anything they used before.
thecasualoblivion
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FR has already adopted 4E cosmology, much to its benefit IMO. Eberron's core philosophy is that if its in D&D, its in Eberron, so Eberron will follow suit. Athas was very focused away from other planes, so I'm curious to see where that goes. Krynn's cosmology was half-assed and lame, and won't be missed, at least not by me. Oerth, I've never been familiar with.
The Little Raven
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Nitpick: It's the other way around. The new cosmology was designed as the new FR cosmology, and they liked it so much they elected to adapt it to the core game.
However, I do agree that they will not force each campaign setting into the default cosmology, though some, like Planescape, will probably be adapted to it.
This was markedly not true of Eberron's cosmology during 3e. I'm not sure whether it'd pick up the 4e cosmology or not, since all of the Eberron planes are basically reskinned planes of the old cosmology, but the Far Realm and the Plane of Dreams are the main planes of importance (or, uh, bad guys, at least) in Eberron's cosmology - not the Abyss or the Nine Hells. So, essentially Eberron wouldn't necessarily be hurt by adopting the 4e cosmology but it would be hurt by adopting ideas like "at epic levels you go to the Abyss or the Nine Hells or other Astral Dominions and punch out bad dudes".
I haven't read my Dark Sun books in a long time but I think the biggest "problems" with it using the 4e cosmology would be the Feywild and Shadowfell - it generally was just 100% about the world, so people who regularly wander through a different plane to travel 20 feet would be kinda out of theme. The Elemental Chaos and Astral Sea can exist and it'll just be that no one cares. (Also, the Feywild is kind of out of theme as coterminous with Athas, though it could be played up as a vision of Athas as it was before Bad Stuff Happened...)
It's pretty generic D&D, so far as I recall. The one cool thing I remember is that the gods were visually represented as constellations. We can surely keep that. (Though it makes Star Pact Warlocks kinda funny.)
Used Great Wheel by the book. Much like FR, wouldn't really be hurt one whit by transferring over to the 4e cosmology. They'd probably massacre the setting and kill off all the gods and that will hurt it, but that's not a cosmology issue.
