Previous 3.x 3PP: Expand in your Pathfinder conversion

[joela]

Here's an idea for those third party publishers who had printed material in the 3.x ruleset and are thinking of jumping on the Pathfinder bandwagon: expand your material in the new version.

Basically, add more material as well as the conversion. Example: Privateer's Iron Kingdom. Wonderful stuff, now OOP. If the company decided to offer a Pathfinder version of Monsternomicon, it could interject new monsters as well as updated stats of the old ones. Because of the nature of the Pathfinder rules, 3.x gamers would be attracted to purchase the new material as well.

Thoughts?

 

[Ghostwind]

That is exactly what DragonWing Games plans to do. We will be updating and expanding both Torn Asunder and Arms & Armor Pathfinder editions with new material as well as updating the older stuff to PF.

 

[joela]

That is exactly what DragonWing Games plans to do. We will be updating and expanding both Torn Asunder and Arms & Armor Pathfinder editions with new material as well as updating the older stuff to PF.

Sweet. I have both the above products; A&A, especially, will see use in my upcoming Pathfinder Warriors! campaign.

Could you give us a hint on some of that new material?

 

[kitsune9]

Here's an idea for those third party publishers who had printed material in the 3.x ruleset and are thinking of jumping on the Pathfinder bandwagon: expand your material in the new version.

Basically, add more material as well as the conversion. Example: Privateer's Iron Kingdom. Wonderful stuff, now OOP. If the company decided to offer a Pathfinder version of Monsternomicon, it could interject new monsters as well as updated stats of the old ones. Because of the nature of the Pathfinder rules, 3.x gamers would be attracted to purchase the new material as well.

Thoughts?

I would totally be on board with this idea if 3pp introduced 33% new content with their original stuff. Iron Kingdoms is my favorite setting too, though my players don't like the steampunk thing so I have yet to run it (boo!).

 

[cerealman]

What update is needed for PF? Wasn't that the whole point of PF: keeping 3.5 on the market and ensuring your 3.5 stuff was still usable? If someone already had a 3.5 product, why would they need a PF update? I mean, it's cool if they want to reprint something that was already printed, but really, if you already own the product, a PF update wouldn't be much of an update, would it?

 

[ShinHakkaider]

What update is needed for PF? Wasn't that the whole point of PF: keeping 3.5 on the market and ensuring your 3.5 stuff was still usable? If someone already had a 3.5 product, why would they need a PF update? I mean, it's cool if they want to reprint something that was already printed, but really, if you already own the product, a PF update wouldn't be much of an update, would it?

Exactly.

For monsters all that really needs to be changed for the most part is the calculation of CMB / CMD and skills.

If there are monsters with Class levels those abilites need to be taken into account. As long as youre not trying to do the whole book in one sit down and taking things as you need them you should be fine. I want to be able to use my older monster books for Pathfinder and being that I dont have lazy / whiney DM syndrome it's not an issue for me.

 

[malkav666]

I think its more of an issue of out of print stuff. If you have an out of print 3.x book...then great you can use it with PFRPG. But if its really good and out of print, I don't see why some "updates" can't be done. The conversion is easy yes, but if a company is going to put something back in print they may as well do the conversions for me.

I think the release of a new version of 3e that is fairly popular is a fine time to think about bringing back some of the better offerings of 3e's lifespan.

But those are just my own thoughts.

love,

malkav

 

[ShinHakkaider]

I think its more of an issue of out of print stuff. If you have an out of print 3.x book...then great you can use it with PFRPG. But if its really good and out of print, I don't see why some "updates" can't be done. The conversion is easy yes, but if a company is going to put something back in print they may as well do the conversions for me.

I think the release of a new version of 3e that is fairly popular is a fine time to think about bringing back some of the better offerings of 3e's lifespan.

But those are just my own thoughts.

love,

malkav

Okay I see what what youre saying here. [Humor]I just take it for granted that if I picked up thousands of dollars of 3rd party OGL stuff that everyone else did as well [/humor].

That being said it would be nice to have a few OGL products in print as pathfinder products. I think that I even suggested at some point that they re-produce a few of Necromancers limited boxed set products as hardcovers...

 

[Scurvy_Platypus]

What update is needed for PF? Wasn't that the whole point of PF: keeping 3.5 on the market and ensuring your 3.5 stuff was still usable? If someone already had a 3.5 product, why would they need a PF update? I mean, it's cool if they want to reprint something that was already printed, but really, if you already own the product, a PF update wouldn't be much of an update, would it?

You're missing the point of the OP. It's not just "reprint your stuff with a new logo". To be honest, most people either already have your product or they're not interested in it. Simply slapping a new logo on it isn't going to do diddly.

On the other hand _expanding_ the product is a different story. As time has changed, people are more and more behind the idea of disliking "dead" levels, the rules behind Pathfinder _do_ work differently than they do in 3.x, and enough time has passed that a company might have found that while Idea A seemed to work fine over time it actually brought up a different problem and now they've got a better solution.

Plus, while gamers _can_ do conversions themselves, they're more willing to buy a product that's already done it for them and that they don't have to worry about whether or not it's been done "right". In theory at least, if someone's selling a product then they've already covered whether or not the rules are "right".

 

[Ghostwind]

Sweet. I have both the above products; A&A, especially, will see use in my upcoming Pathfinder Warriors! campaign.

Could you give us a hint on some of that new material?

All I can really add at this point in time is that the chapter on Prosthetics in Torn Asunder will be lengthened. The author of that chapter, Mike Kogan, has said he has new stuff he wants to add.