Problem for Aussie gamers accessing ENworld

[hong]

I'm using Internode in Sydney (have been for the last ~2 years) and I've never had problems getting to EN World.

 

[hong]

Tracert to www.enworld.org:


Tracing route to www.enworld.org [65.127.163.19]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 16 ms 12 ms 14 ms loop0.lns3.syd7.internode.on.net [150.101.197.92]
3 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms gi0-204.cor1.syd7.internode.on.net [150.101.120.110]
4 258 ms 235 ms 235 ms gi0-0.bdr1.syd7.agile.on.net [150.101.199.231]
5 172 ms 171 ms 171 ms pos2-1.bdr1.sjc2.internode.on.net [203.16.213.185]
6 172 ms 171 ms 171 ms ge-3-7.r02.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.11.97]
7 173 ms 171 ms 171 ms xe-1-2-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.30]
8 170 ms 171 ms 171 ms p16-6-0-0.r00.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.87]
9 174 ms 175 ms 175 ms sjp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.1.161]
10 174 ms 174 ms 174 ms svx-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.214.133]
11 241 ms 242 ms 242 ms tpa-core-02.inet.qwest.net [67.14.3.10]
12 245 ms 244 ms 245 ms nap-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.27.46]
13 245 ms 246 ms 247 ms 65.124.198.234
14 249 ms 250 ms 250 ms 63-144-217-198.cust.neotechus.com [63.144.217.198]
15 251 ms 255 ms 255 ms rcarter.cyberstreet.com [65.127.163.19]

Trace complete.

 

[Olaf the Stout]

kasin - which lines does Internode go through? Telstra, Optus or their own?

I am on iinet at home and have never had a problem with accessing ENWorld.

Something to try is another RPG website that is also being hosted by Cyberstreet (the ISP hosting ENWorld) - Mortality.net.

A couple of years ago I could not access Mortality or ENworld and found out that there was a block in the cable coming into Australia that was causing the problem.

But I have not recently had any problems accessing ENWorld through iinet from Queensland.

I can't reach Mortality.net or CM with my Optusnet connection unless I use a proxy server. The whole Cyberstreet address is not accessible.

There is another thread on Meta (I linked to it earlier in the thread) that discusses the exact same issue.

Olaf the Stout

 

[hong]

There is a thread on Whirlpool that discusses an ongoing problem with Internode and outdated bogon filters:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=324246

If you have an IP address beginning 121.44.*.* it might be something to do with it.

 

[maransreth]

"No, bud, we're up, and being accessed. I found out yesterday, that people in Oz couldn't get into the 2 sites. I did a traceroute, and found a router down, as best as I can tell, in Sydney. Definately on your side of the pond though."

This is the response I got from Adlon (the owner/admin of Mortality) about the issue. It is dated 13/8/03 and I forgot to mention in the previous post that I was with Optus at the time that it occurred.

It might help, but I think this is probably a new problem, not a repeat of the old problem.

 

[Olaf the Stout]

"No, bud, we're up, and being accessed. I found out yesterday, that people in Oz couldn't get into the 2 sites. I did a traceroute, and found a router down, as best as I can tell, in Sydney. Definately on your side of the pond though."

This is the response I got from Adlon (the owner/admin of Mortality) about the issue. It is dated 13/8/03 and I forgot to mention in the previous post that I was with Optus at the time that it occurred.

It might help, but I think this is probably a new problem, not a repeat of the old problem.

How long did it take to resolve itself that time? By my reckoning it has been a couple of months now. Damn Optus!

Olaf the Stout

 

[maransreth]

To be honest I can't remember. I think that it was a week or so before I emailed Adlon, and then it was a week or two after I emailed Optus about the reply I got that it was fixed.

The thing to let Optus know is that ENWorld is using VBulletin, while Mortality is using Open Bulletin Board. I think it was kasin who mentioned that there could be an error in the VBulletin, yet if you cannot reach either website, then either the ISP that hosts the sites (Cyberstreet) has a problem, or, what is more likely, that the problem is with Optus and to get other people who have the same problem to start bugging Optus as well.

 

[kasin]

kasin - which lines does Internode go through? Telstra, Optus or their own?

Our own.

It appears cyberstreet use qwest, which means it pops out of Internode in San Jose, using ntt as transit. So optus network stuff in Sydney will have no effect.
(Edit: as per Hong's traceroute above)

(See http://www.agile.com.au/data/network/ip/index.htm (Agile is the wholesale arm of Internode))

Strangely I don't have any problems this evening.

 

[kasin]

There is a thread on Whirlpool that discusses an ongoing problem with Internode and outdated bogon filters:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=324246

If you have an IP address beginning 121.44.*.* it might be something to do with it.

I have the problem at home, but I'm on a static IP which isn't in that range. I also have had the problem from work, and my work IP addresses aren't in a range known for it's bogon issues. The transparent proxies (Adelaide only) also aren't in that range. I thought it was a bogon issue at first too, but I just don't see how.

Incidently other ISPs in Australia have bogon issues occasionally too.

 

[kasin]

So where is the block coming from then? Morrus says that it isn't from EN World. It must be from somewhere though.

Olaf the Stout

The page saying 'banned', at least for me, is generated from enworld. It's not a timeout, page generated by some other body, or anything else.

Could be two different issues if other people are getting timeouts instead of an error page.