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<blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 9053686" data-attributes="member: 907">Generally speaking, I think numbers might escalate a little faster in PF2 than the encounter guidelines account for. A &quot;moderate&quot; encounter can be either two same-level creatures or one level+2 creature, and the level+2 creature definitely feels more dangerous. You won't be able to use Incapacitation effects on it, it'll save against your spells most of the time and even has a fair chance of critting on their save negating the spell entirely. And in reverse, it will score critical hits on you, which when combined with having higher base damage might very well knock you out entirely in a single hit.There are also a number of discontinuities here and there. Generally speaking, creature power increases at a fairly steady rate, at +3 to about all numbers per 2 levels. But PCs don't advance like that. They might average out to that, but they get proficiency increases, item bonuses, and stat increases here and there. At level 5, most PCs get a pretty big boost. They get stat boosts that will likely help out everything except their primary stat (because it's going from 18 to 19). Martial characters get a proficiency increase in their weapon proficiencies. Casters get 3rd level spells which are generally a significant step up from 2nd. Martial characters also generally get Striking runes at about level 4, which will increase their damage by ~50% (from 1 die plus stat bonus to 2 dice plus stat bonus). That boils down to a 3rd level character being much weaker than a 5th level creature, moreso than the rules suggest.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Staffan, post: 9053686, member: 907"] Generally speaking, I think numbers might escalate a little faster in PF2 than the encounter guidelines account for. A "moderate" encounter can be either two same-level creatures or one level+2 creature, and the level+2 creature definitely feels more dangerous. You won't be able to use Incapacitation effects on it, it'll save against your spells most of the time and even has a fair chance of critting on their save negating the spell entirely. And in reverse, it will score critical hits on you, which when combined with having higher base damage might very well knock you out entirely in a single hit. There are also a number of discontinuities here and there. Generally speaking, creature power increases at a fairly steady rate, at +3 to about all numbers per 2 levels. But PCs don't advance like that. They might average out to that, but they get proficiency increases, item bonuses, and stat increases here and there. At level 5, most PCs get a pretty big boost. They get stat boosts that will likely help out everything except their primary stat (because it's going from 18 to 19). Martial characters get a proficiency increase in their weapon proficiencies. Casters get 3rd level spells which are generally a significant step up from 2nd. Martial characters also generally get Striking runes at about level 4, which will increase their damage by ~50% (from 1 die plus stat bonus to 2 dice plus stat bonus). That boils down to a 3rd level character being much weaker than a 5th level creature, moreso than the rules suggest. [/QUOTE]

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