Proposal Adventurers Vault

[Oni]

There's a brutal light blade in AV, the Kukri. Not sure I'd favor it over a +1 to hit from a rapier though.

 

[renau1g]

Yeah, I personally find it odd that a light weapon has the brutal property. Just doesn't fit in my head how something could be light and brutal.

 

[JoeNotCharles]

What about a Bowie knife with a jagged blade? Brutal seems like a good property to represent the extra ripping and tearing, and it's certainly not a heavy blade...

 

[garyh]

There's a brutal light blade in AV, the Kukri. Not sure I'd favor it over a +1 to hit from a rapier though.

Oops! How'd I miss that?

In any case...

Kukri - +2 prof, 1d6, brutal 1, off-hand, light blade (average damage 4)
Rapier - +3 prof, 1d8, light blade (average damage 4.5)

Both superior. So, taking kukri over the rapier gives you 0.5 less average damage, costs +1 to hit, and gains you the ability to use in your off-hand. Obviously, the only reason to use a kukri in that analysis is to have it in your off-hand. Otherwise, the rapier is strictly better. At large size, the kukri is 1d8 brutal 1 (average 5) and the rapier is 1d10 (average 5.5), so that doesn't change with the large versions.

 

[Ozymandias79]

You also missed that Kukri counts a dagger for the rogue weapon talent

 

[Atanatotatos]

Brutal weapons really do nothing to improve your power; they just reduce the fluctuation of damage. Which is good, but really... not what one should be worried about IMO...

 

[garyh]

You also missed that Kukri counts a dagger for the rogue weapon talent

Gotcha. In that case, that evens up the prof bonus for rogues, but it's still trading 0.5 damage for the offhand quality. That makes sense, at least.

 

[Atanatotatos]

By the way, higher to-hit also means more damage on average... don't forget that

 

[renau1g]

But they share the same to hit +3, so it's a wash in the end.

 

[Atanatotatos]

Only for rogues...