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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 7025879" data-attributes="member: 53980">Clearly I disagree. Including about it being mechanically horrible. Not optimized, certainly. However, such a character could leverage their versatility to nonetheless be a useful member of the party.The point is completely that somebody, somewhere (at my table) might someday want to play such a concept.Reread my post. I wasn't arguing in favor of the C/D's effectiveness compared to an optimized character, merely its relative effectiveness compared to a Barbarian/Wizard.Again, I disagree. I don't believe that 5e tries to make all combinations equal. Even in single class design that wasn't a goal (perfect parity in all things) so it would be a rather incongruous for the multiclass system to attempt it.Sure Hemlock, from the point of view of an optimizer like yourself, both systems are bad and neither option would ever be worth playing. From the point of view of my player who is actually playing and enjoying his hybrid Cleric/Wizard, likely not so much. From my point of view as the DM, where he seems on par with the single classed characters once his versatility is factored in, also not so much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 7025879, member: 53980"] Clearly I disagree. Including about it being mechanically horrible. Not optimized, certainly. However, such a character could leverage their versatility to nonetheless be a useful member of the party. The point is completely that somebody, somewhere (at my table) might someday want to play such a concept. Reread my post. I wasn't arguing in favor of the C/D's effectiveness compared to an optimized character, merely its [i]relative[/i] effectiveness compared to a Barbarian/Wizard. Again, I disagree. I don't believe that 5e tries to make all combinations equal. Even in single class design that wasn't a goal (perfect parity in all things) so it would be a rather incongruous for the multiclass system to attempt it. Sure Hemlock, from the point of view of an optimizer like yourself, both systems are bad and neither option would ever be worth playing. From the point of view of my player who is actually playing and enjoying his hybrid Cleric/Wizard, likely not so much. From my point of view as the DM, where he seems on par with the single classed characters once his versatility is factored in, also not so much. [/QUOTE]

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