Teflon Billy
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Grazzt said:...I dont really think they belong in straight-up/core/main/whatever-you-want-to-call-it D&D. Gygax said he wished he'd never put them in the 1e PHB and I tend to agree with him. Not that they are bad or don't belong in a fantasy setting (Dark Sun made them work), just not in the core books.
Just me though perhaps...
Nope, not just you. You summed up my thoughts nicely.