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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 7310667" data-attributes="member: 6777737">The problem is that they intend "staff" to qualify for both a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8D" target="_blank">bo staff</a> (~6 ft) or quarterstaff (6 ft-9 ft), and a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8D" target="_blank">jo staff</a> (~4 ft), walking stick (3 ft-5 ft), bat (~3 ft), or cane (~3 ft).  It looks like they've lost a degree of granularity here, but looking closer I'm not so sure.  I think they just simplified the list.There are people who will say, "one handed wooden weapon = club", but that's clearly not how the designers intended it.  They clearly thought of "club" as a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baton_(law_enforcement)" target="_blank">baton</a>, truncheon, or belaying pin, all of which are going to be under ~2 ft in length.  Those are clearly too short to be Versatile and might be Light, whereas something the size of a jo staff, cane, or a bat clearly *can* be used one or two handed.  And, of course, there's the Greatclub or large wooden mallet.The problem they ran into actually becomes clear when you try to map it out:Club: 1d4, LightShort Staff: 1d4, Versatile 1d6Quarterstaff: 1d6, Two-HandedGreatclub: 1d8, Two-handedThat doesn't seem right.  Short Staff is just directly better, isn't it?  (And yes, I'm aware of the irony of making "quarterstaff" and "short staff" different weapons.)So do we do this:Club: 1d4, LightShort Staff: 1d4, Versatile 1d6Quarterstaff: 1d8, Two-HandedGreatclub: 1d10, Two-handedI guess this works?  I mean, club is now mostly worse than short staff, and quarterstaff is still terrible, too.  Have we really added anything to the game, or just added things nobody will use?</blockquote>

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