S Stalker0 Legend Mar 27, 2008 #1 For white raven manuevers, when it says allies, does it mean only friends and not yourself, or is it like bardic music, you can affect yourself as well?
For white raven manuevers, when it says allies, does it mean only friends and not yourself, or is it like bardic music, you can affect yourself as well?
A akbearfoot First Post Mar 27, 2008 #2 Ahh, the old 'Can I use White Raven tactics on myself' query. Gotta love it. By RAW you count as your own ally, unless an ability or effect says otherwise.
Ahh, the old 'Can I use White Raven tactics on myself' query. Gotta love it. By RAW you count as your own ally, unless an ability or effect says otherwise.
brehobit Explorer Mar 27, 2008 #4 Agree that allies include yourself unless otherwise stated or otherwise creating something broken. White Raven Tactics is _very_ broken and should be house ruled in some way. Perhaps treating as "snake's swiftness" Mark
Agree that allies include yourself unless otherwise stated or otherwise creating something broken. White Raven Tactics is _very_ broken and should be house ruled in some way. Perhaps treating as "snake's swiftness" Mark
Nifft Penguin Herder Mar 27, 2008 #5 White Raven Tactics = broken. But let's put that aside for the moment. - - - In general, it seems "an ally" refers to someone NOT yourself, while "all allies" include yourself. There was a FAQ entry about this, IIRC. Cheers, -- N
White Raven Tactics = broken. But let's put that aside for the moment. - - - In general, it seems "an ally" refers to someone NOT yourself, while "all allies" include yourself. There was a FAQ entry about this, IIRC. Cheers, -- N
blargney the second blargney the minute's son Mar 27, 2008 #6 brehobit said: White Raven Tactics is _very_ broken and should be house ruled in some way. Perhaps treating as "snake's swiftness" Click to expand... QFT. WRT makes broken things look like they're shiny and completely functional...
brehobit said: White Raven Tactics is _very_ broken and should be house ruled in some way. Perhaps treating as "snake's swiftness" Click to expand... QFT. WRT makes broken things look like they're shiny and completely functional...