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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6542304" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Yeah, it seems like the real issue here is the intention of what they meant when they said monk weapons were shortswords and simple melee weapons-- did they intend monk weapons to be those weapons used <em>in melee</em>?</p><p></p><p>You would think that would HAVE to be what they meant... otherwise you'd get this exact situation where there are five Simple Melee Weapons with the Thrown property, all of which technically fall within the 'Monk Weapons' category (and thus all go up in Martial Arts damage die) that can be thrown with the Attack action, followed up by an Unarmed Strike. So we then do question why they don't include the other two weapons the Monk is proficient in (the two Simple Ranged Weapons that don't have the two-handed property-- i.e. the dart and sling) in that Monk Weapon category? The only advantage the dart gets over dagger is cost and weight (neither of which I'd consider game-breaking), and the only advantage sling gets over handaxe or spear is range (which I also wouldn't consider game-breaking because how often are you going to fire your sling the 60-120 feet the sling gets in distance over the other two while still remaining within moving/striking distance of another enemy to use that bonus action unarmed strike?)</p><p></p><p>Seems to me... the only intention that makes sense for not including dart and sling in with the Monk Weapon category is if that category was only meant to be for weapons used in melee (attack with the weapon to someone adjacent to you, followed up by a punch or kick.) Otherwise, the exclusion of the dart and sling seems a little tenuous and unnecessary.</p><p></p><p>*EDIT* Paraxis does bring up the good point about Archery style and the Sharpshooter feat, where perhaps WotC felt they were okay with throwing a d10 dagger and then following up with an unarmed strike, but did not want the same to occur with a d10 dart plus the extra 10 damage due to Sharpshooter. That could definitely be a possibility I hadn't thought of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6542304, member: 7006"] Yeah, it seems like the real issue here is the intention of what they meant when they said monk weapons were shortswords and simple melee weapons-- did they intend monk weapons to be those weapons used [i]in melee[/i]? You would think that would HAVE to be what they meant... otherwise you'd get this exact situation where there are five Simple Melee Weapons with the Thrown property, all of which technically fall within the 'Monk Weapons' category (and thus all go up in Martial Arts damage die) that can be thrown with the Attack action, followed up by an Unarmed Strike. So we then do question why they don't include the other two weapons the Monk is proficient in (the two Simple Ranged Weapons that don't have the two-handed property-- i.e. the dart and sling) in that Monk Weapon category? The only advantage the dart gets over dagger is cost and weight (neither of which I'd consider game-breaking), and the only advantage sling gets over handaxe or spear is range (which I also wouldn't consider game-breaking because how often are you going to fire your sling the 60-120 feet the sling gets in distance over the other two while still remaining within moving/striking distance of another enemy to use that bonus action unarmed strike?) Seems to me... the only intention that makes sense for not including dart and sling in with the Monk Weapon category is if that category was only meant to be for weapons used in melee (attack with the weapon to someone adjacent to you, followed up by a punch or kick.) Otherwise, the exclusion of the dart and sling seems a little tenuous and unnecessary. *EDIT* Paraxis does bring up the good point about Archery style and the Sharpshooter feat, where perhaps WotC felt they were okay with throwing a d10 dagger and then following up with an unarmed strike, but did not want the same to occur with a d10 dart plus the extra 10 damage due to Sharpshooter. That could definitely be a possibility I hadn't thought of. [/QUOTE]
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