Question: Is a year-long D&DI subscription worth it?

[justanobody]

No, munchkin is, by what you mean, the word you are looking for. My point was just that, the fact that a person wants all that is published does not make him a munchkin, which was what you were saying.



CoDzilla is short for cleric-or-druid-zilla and refers to how broken those two classes were in 3.x.

Last thing first...well someone else can fix the right term in, it took so long for anyone to answer the question which was the correct term, I no longer care to try to edit in the correct one.

I was not saying that a person wanting all that was published is a "munchkin" if you read the thread and the one it replies to as well as the other posts asking what the term was; I was saying I was not. It was implied to me in the post I originally responded to that for some reason I needed all that DDI offered in order to play when I have clearly stated otherwise. So I repeated my reason yet again. In my experience, those scouring every book to make a character out of are just that...munchkins. I have never personally seen someone who did that and was not.

Which is, of course, another favorite line of attack he uses.

"4e sucks because it doesn't have the build options of 3e."

Here's a ton of options!

"Munchkin..."

I don't think you could call that a personal attack, nothing is hyperbole or made up there. Both of those are positions expressed by the poster in question.

Except where you commit libel.

I have no love or like for 3rd edition. So your assertion is made up. I can only guess the reason is you personally want to start some war with people who like 3rd and hate 4th, but sadly here you fail, because I do not care for 3rd edition. So you will have to take your intent to start some war elsewhere that you CAN find someone who liked 3rd or something from it and uses that as a reason for not liking 4th.

Also you may wish to read up to find out there was D&D prior to WotC or 3rd so you do not make this error again in the future and accuse someone else of something due to lack of information of the subject matter or the person, in the case that this was an error on your part.

 

[doctorhook]

Last thing first...well someone else can fix the right term in, it took so long for anyone to answer the question which was the correct term, I no longer care to try to edit in the correct one.

I was not saying that a person wanting all that was published is a "munchkin" if you read the thread and the one it replies to as well as the other posts asking what the term was; I was saying I was not. It was implied to me in the post I originally responded to that for some reason I needed all that DDI offered in order to play when I have clearly stated otherwise. So I repeated my reason yet again. In my experience, those scouring every book to make a character out of are just that...munchkins. I have never personally seen someone who did that and was not.

This thread is replying to another thread?

Additionally, what's wrong with wanting a breadth of options? I say this speaking primarily as a DM, because I rarely get to be a player.

EDIT: I suddenly remember that we've already been though this, to no avail.

 

[justanobody]

This thread is replying to another thread?

"the post and one it was replying to"

Additionally, what's wrong with wanting a breadth of options? I say this speaking primarily as a DM, because I rarely get to be a player.

EDIT: I suddenly remember that we've already been though this, to no avail.

As I said, I am a player only for 4th, so that is what I was basing my decision and opinion on. I only need the PHB for 4th to play.

I haven't really looked at DDI from a DM perspective because I know I would never DM it, and cannot evaluate it under those circumstances for that perspective.

Personally I grab bits from all over when DMing, and not limit myself to jsut officially licensed product, as they only comprise maybe 5% of the total design when I DM. Other things come directly from history books, mythology books, or other sources of that nature where I can farm for ideas to link together something that my players have not read, seen, or done before.

Otherwise I just pull stuff out of my @$$ as a DM and create on the fly any small thing that is needed during play or grab something from the DMG/MM and rename it and tweak it to make it look different until a return to what the story was prior to the sidetrek.

 

[doctorhook]

"the post and one it was replying to"

Ahh, that makes more sense.

As I said, I am a player only for 4th, so that is what I was basing my decision and opinion on. I only need the PHB for 4th to play.

I haven't really looked at DDI from a DM perspective because I know I would never DM it, and cannot evaluate it under those circumstances for that perspective.

Personally I grab bits from all over when DMing, and not limit myself to jsut officially licensed product, as they only comprise maybe 5% of the total design when I DM. Other things come directly from history books, mythology books, or other sources of that nature where I can farm for ideas to link together something that my players have not read, seen, or done before.

Otherwise I just pull stuff out of my @$$ as a DM and create on the fly any small thing that is needed during play or grab something from the DMG/MM and rename it and tweak it to make it look different until a return to what the story was prior to the sidetrek.

I think I see where you're coming from, at least with regards to D&DI's usefulness to DMs:

You're saying that since you don't DM 4E, and since when you do DM (anything) you normally invent your own material anyway, there's no utility to D&DI for you as a DM's tool.

I suppose that's a fair judgement. I disagree with your opinion, but that's significantly because A.) I do DM 4E, and B.) I prefer using published materials (it gives me more opportunity to prep the session rather than the adventure). Given these fundamental differences in utility, D&DI is obviously more worthwhile to me as a DM than you as a DM.

 

[doctorhook]

Hmm...

We now have ONE person who has voted that they play 4E, have a year-long subscription, and that it's NOT worth it. Unfortunately, they voted anonymously.

To be honest, I wasn't even aware it was possible to vote anonymously in a non-anonymous poll.

 

[justanobody]

That result will likely be thrown out as the next maintanence to prevent from poll spamming. Most forums do that so people don't just anonymously vote from varying IPs to pad the votes. So by this time tomorrow, that one vote will likely be expunged from the system if the poll is still alive at that time.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Hmm...

We now have ONE person who has voted that they play 4E, have a year-long subscription, and that it's NOT worth it. Unfortunately, they voted anonymously.

To be honest, I wasn't even aware it was possible to vote anonymously in a non-anonymous poll.

I think you can vote if not logged in, for bizarre reasons.

 

[doctorhook]

I think you can vote if not logged in, for bizarre reasons.

You are completely correct! I just logged out and voted for that same category, and it counted my vote! (Now it has two votes.) That sucks!

This is a bug, not a feature, dudes.

 

[the Jester]

I play 4e, I'm not a subscriber, and I haven't yet decided whether it's worth it, though I'm currently leaning "yes". But I've been waffling back and forth for months.

The problem for me isn't the content; it's the format. Are these articles something that I'll ever use if I don't print them out? And how much of a printing cost am I looking at to use what I find worthwhile, on top of the subscription cost?

I continue to waffle. But damn, DDI seems to have a lot of good stuff in it.