Question regarding AoO's and Sunder

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Sunder, on the other hand, is a standard action. And doesn't have footnote 7.

Oddly enough, though, the text in the SRD is written as though someone thought it did.

You can use a melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon to strike a weapon or shield that your opponent is holding.

Compare, for example, to Trip, which does bear the footnote:

You can try to trip an opponent as an unarmed melee attack.

As well as Disarm:

As a melee attack, you may attempt to disarm your opponent.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Oddly enough, though, the text in the SRD is written as though someone thought it did.

What can you do when you take the Sunder Standard Action? The Sunder Standard Action allows you to use a melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon to strike a weapon or shield that your opponent is holding.

What can you do when you replace a melee attack with the Disarm action, once in an attack or charge action, one or more times in a full attack action, or as an attack of opportunity? When you take the Disarm action in one of these ways, as a melee attack, you may attempt to disarm your opponent.

-Hyp.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

I'm aware of the actual rules. However, the format of the rules - especially when compared to the other situations - can easily lead people astray.

For instance:

I am full-attacking with my longsword. Can I sunder with one of my three iterative attacks?

You can use a melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon to strike a weapon or shield that your opponent is holding.

Hmm, I'm making a melee attack with a slashing weapon, so I can "strike a weapon or shield that [my] opponent is holding."

Sunder should, instead, be written more like Manyshot: "As a standard action, you may make a single melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon to strike a weapon or shield that your opponent is holding."

That would clear up the remaining confusion, I believe.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Sunder should, instead, be written more like Manyshot: "As a standard action, you may make a single melee attack with a slashing or bludgeoning weapon to strike a weapon or shield that your opponent is holding."

It is written that way. It's just that the first four words are found elsewhere

-Hyp.

 

[RigaMortus]

Remember that you can't respond to an interrupt with an instant. Oh, wait, they got rid of interrupts.

LOL... I'm still trying to figure out if you can Fork a TimeWalk. A game I played 10 years ago depends on the ruling, and I'd like to know if I won or not!