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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 5157075" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>What is really great is that grappling penalties are much less severe in pathfinder, so remember rogues no longer get to sneak attack a grappling target, a huge change from 3E. Here are handy PDFs since pathfinder grapple has some changes from the last edition. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://tuskmountain.wdfiles.com/local--files/grapple-flowcharts/Grapple%20Flowchart.pdf" target="_blank">http://tuskmountain.wdfiles.com/local--files/grapple-flowcharts/Grapple Flowchart.pdf</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://tuskmountain.wdfiles.com/local--files/grapple-flowcharts/Grapple%20Flowchart%20Controllers%20Turn.pdf" target="_blank">http://tuskmountain.wdfiles.com/local--files/grapple-flowcharts/Grapple Flowchart Controllers Turn.pdf</a></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Grappled</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">A grappled creature is restrained by a creature, trap, or effect. <strong>Grappled creatures cannot move and take a –4 penalty to Dexterity</strong>. A grappled creature takes a –2 penalty on all attack rolls and combat maneuver checks, except those made to grapple or escape a grapple. In addition, grappled creatures can take no action that requires two hands to perform. A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 10 + grappler's CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">A grappled creature cannot use Stealth to hide from the creature grappling it, even if a special ability, such as hide in plain sight, would normally allow it to do so. If a grappled creature becomes invisible, through a spell or other ability, it gains a +2 circumstance bonus on its CMD to avoid being grappled, but receives no other benefit.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Grab (Ex)</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">If a creature with this special attack hits with the indicated attack (usually a claw or bite attack), it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. Unless otherwise noted, grab works only against opponents at least one size category smaller than the creature. The creature has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use the part of its body it used in the grab to hold the opponent. If it chooses to do the latter, it takes a –20 penalty on its CMB check to make and maintain the grapple, but does not gain the grappled condition itself. A successful hold does not deal any extra damage unless the creature also has the constrict special attack. <span style="font-size: 10px">If the creature does not constrict, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals the damage indicated for the attack that established the hold. Otherwise, it deals constriction damage as well </span>(the amount is given in the creature's descriptive text).</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Creatures with the grab special attack receive a +4 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to start and maintain a grapple.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Format: grab; Location: individual attacks.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Constrict (Ex)</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">A creature with this special attack can crush an opponent, dealing bludgeoning damage, when it makes a successful grapple check <span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>(in addition to any other effects caused by a successful check, including additional damage)</strong></span>. The amount of damage is given in the creature's entry and is typically equal to the amount of damage caused by the creature's melee attack.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Format: constrict (1d8+6); Location: Special Attacks.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 5157075, member: 1164"] What is really great is that grappling penalties are much less severe in pathfinder, so remember rogues no longer get to sneak attack a grappling target, a huge change from 3E. Here are handy PDFs since pathfinder grapple has some changes from the last edition. [url]http://tuskmountain.wdfiles.com/local--files/grapple-flowcharts/Grapple%20Flowchart.pdf[/url] [url]http://tuskmountain.wdfiles.com/local--files/grapple-flowcharts/Grapple%20Flowchart%20Controllers%20Turn.pdf[/url] [SIZE="1"][B]Grappled[/B] A grappled creature is restrained by a creature, trap, or effect. [B]Grappled creatures cannot move and take a –4 penalty to Dexterity[/B]. A grappled creature takes a –2 penalty on all attack rolls and combat maneuver checks, except those made to grapple or escape a grapple. In addition, grappled creatures can take no action that requires two hands to perform. A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 10 + grappler's CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity. A grappled creature cannot use Stealth to hide from the creature grappling it, even if a special ability, such as hide in plain sight, would normally allow it to do so. If a grappled creature becomes invisible, through a spell or other ability, it gains a +2 circumstance bonus on its CMD to avoid being grappled, but receives no other benefit. [B]Grab (Ex)[/B] If a creature with this special attack hits with the indicated attack (usually a claw or bite attack), it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. Unless otherwise noted, grab works only against opponents at least one size category smaller than the creature. The creature has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use the part of its body it used in the grab to hold the opponent. If it chooses to do the latter, it takes a –20 penalty on its CMB check to make and maintain the grapple, but does not gain the grappled condition itself. A successful hold does not deal any extra damage unless the creature also has the constrict special attack. [SIZE="2"]If the creature does not constrict, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals the damage indicated for the attack that established the hold. Otherwise, it deals constriction damage as well [/SIZE](the amount is given in the creature's descriptive text). Creatures with the grab special attack receive a +4 bonus on combat maneuver checks made to start and maintain a grapple. Format: grab; Location: individual attacks. [B]Constrict (Ex)[/B] A creature with this special attack can crush an opponent, dealing bludgeoning damage, when it makes a successful grapple check [SIZE="2"][B](in addition to any other effects caused by a successful check, including additional damage)[/B][/SIZE]. The amount of damage is given in the creature's entry and is typically equal to the amount of damage caused by the creature's melee attack. Format: constrict (1d8+6); Location: Special Attacks.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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