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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 5159547" data-attributes="member: 1164">One houserule I used for 3.5 was that damage dealt out from "constrict" was 50% Nonlethal / Subdual. This way a victim passed out before they were killed and made healing constricts damage pileup much easier. I also ruled a constricting crittter automatically suffered armor spike damage [with its own str bonus replacing the victims].Why Yes. You've won some darkmantle counters... [ink & paper sold separately]<a href="http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/31/darkmantle.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/31/darkmantle.th.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a><a href="http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/31/darkmantle.png" target="_blank">http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/31/darkmantle.png</a>img294.imageshack.us/img294/31/darkmantle.pngIntentional. Players being able to shut down medium size BBEGs was a problem Pathfinder corrected. Just look at the changes done to grappling in general. OTOH Grab is a an offensive monster ability that is often supposed to comprise the majority of the critter's threat, rather than a feat which is only a small part of a character's arsenal*. The +4 makes sure the critter has a decent chance at getting a hold of it's prey.Do note that even if a critter manages to use the -20, it sounds like it still hase to use up its standard action to maintain the grapple every round.*Improved grapple also gives +2 to the victim's defense against being grappled.</blockquote>

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