Question to Wish spell

[Khelvan]

I am not sure if i am in the right Category.
If wrong please point me to the right one.

Have a Question conerning the Wish Spell. One can use it to increase Stats, but could it be used to gain a Feat?

Khelvan.

 

[Primitive Screwhead]

This is more of a House Rule question I think, since per the RAW there is no basis for granting Feats with a Wish.

In a recent thread discussing Wishes it seemed that a consensus was reached that a wish could be used to increase a skill by +5 {same rules as increasing a stat}

This is quite similiar in power to some of the skill feats, so depending on how far you want to stretch it, feats should be within the realm of what a Wish can grant.

 

[Artoomis]

Sure. However, "You may try to use a wish to produce greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. (The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment.) "

 

[frankthedm]

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A wish to recieve Combat Reflexes might give you Veteran's Reflexes, the ability to take all AoOs presented to you, but you always have to take them, even on friends and family.

Wishing for power attack gets you All Power Attack, all the time, every time.

 

[Plane Sailing]

This is more of a House Rule question I think, since per the RAW there is no basis for granting Feats with a Wish.

Please note - the Rules forum is the place where people discuss how to handle the rules, and that goes way beyond just 'RAW'. Calling this a 'house rule question' is considered borderline rude by the moderators.

I'm sure that it was just an unintentional choice of words by Primitive Screwhead, but we have to keep making this point in this forum!

Thanks

 

[Plane Sailing]

Personally, since feats are gained 1 per 3 levels and attribute points are 1 per 4 levels, I would judge feats as less valuable than attribute points and as a DM I'd be happy to allow for someone to wish for a feat (assuming they met all the appropriate prereqs).

Cheers

 

[Primitive Screwhead]

I'm sure that it was just an unintentional choice of words by Primitive Screwhead, but we have to keep making this point in this forum!

Thanks

My bad....

Going back to my favorite forum now...

 

[WolverineJon]

Personally, since feats are gained 1 per 3 levels and attribute points are 1 per 4 levels, I would judge feats as less valuable than attribute points and as a DM I'd be happy to allow for someone to wish for a feat (assuming they met all the appropriate prereqs).

That's an interesting (in a good way!) method of looking at the comparative power of gaining an additional feat vs an additional attribute increase.

On the other hand, a 1st level character starts with (typically) only 1-2 feats, but with in the neighborhood of +8 in combined attribute bonuses. If that 1st level character is somehow granted a wish, for that low-level character, going from having (for example) 1 feat to 2 feats could be a more significant power increase than going from +8 to +9 in combined attribute bonuses (or from, say, +3 to +4 in a single attribute bonus).

So the relative power of gaining an additional feat may depend on the level of the character gaining the feat.

 

[Matafuego]

But no epic feats i'd say...

 

[darthkilmor]

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A wish to recieve Combat Reflexes might give you Veteran's Reflexes, the ability to take all AoOs presented to you, but you always have to take them, even on friends and family.

Wishing for power attack gets you All Power Attack, all the time, every time.

Hopefully the DM hasnt just watched Wishmaster when the party decides to use a wish for something, and they won't get any of these punish-the-players-for-wishing effects.