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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tymophil" data-source="post: 3362292" data-attributes="member: 46923">This is a sound advice, for sure. But suspension of disbelief is important.My concern is that it requires much more than mere craftsmen to have something made. In fact, it requires a whole chain : people extracting (metal, wood) or producing raw material (leather, linen, wool, etc.), people transporting those raw materials, people working for the support of the transportation (raising horses, making carts, maintaining roads and bridges), people transforming raw material into another form of not-so-raw material , people making clothes for members of this chain and people working to feed the members of this chain.If I got the Midnight setting right, no link in this chain is allowed to exist... The only chance would have to have the whole human society support the war effort, but this would mean maintaining most of the society together, like France under the Nazi rule. Nothing like what Midnight tries to portray.You can hide things, people, activities not a whole society...Okay, I can portray an occupied nation. But, destroying all the means to produce food by forbidding some important things would make the system collapse real fast. As I said, such a society would disappear in two years at the most.Just tell me how they are fed. Where does the food come from ? Who transports it to the population of the cities ? Where is it stocked ?If you talk about the XXIst century world you may be right. But in a medieval-like world it is not so. The mere rumour of war was enough to send tribes, nations on the road. Just look at what did the Mongol invasion ! Even a severe draught was enough to have people move on. Some nations disappeared, cities were deserted, there population disappearing (most likely dead for 90%, and another 10% absorbed by the neighbours).This is what should have happened in the Midnight setting.Africa is a continent, and a rich one (potentially at least). There is enough riches for the warlord to buy weapons. Some countries are really poor, but most of the time the people are not forbidden to do whatever they can to survive. There are also countries, companies outside Africa that are willing to send in some money or food in... But imagine the situation in Ruanda in 94, unrestrained by other nations... This is what Midnight is all about. In the end, there should be no loser at all...Okay, this makes sense... But it would mean that the Shadow would require Humans to work even harder for them, not restraining them from producing food, items as I have been told.Once again, the image of France and the Nazi rule springs to mind. France was not forbidden to produce food, nor weapons. On the contrary, the Germans made every possible effort to have France produce as much for them. France produced food as in peacetime, produced weapons for the Germans (tanks, trucks, planes, etc.) for the German. The people in the cities did not eat much, and food was the most important thing for people in those days. But the production was always high, the Germans took a big part of it, but people in the rural areas could live relatively well. To avoid any collapse of the production, there was a ticket system, and there was enough produced for a healthy black-market.But then again, this situation is very different from what we may have seen in medieval times...I confess that I did not, as I feared that fans would simply turn me down as a troublemaker. Moreover, I already asked the “Midnight Sundering” community, and many posters there, post at “Against the Shadow” too. So I did not expected more from AtS.So I am not merely imagining things... That's good to know.Thanks all for your input.</blockquote>

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