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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2149962" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>First example that comes to mind - your longsword/shortsword TWFer can't use his shortsword on that standard action attack, but if he draws it while moving, it occupies a hand. With Quickdraw, he can move, strike with his longsword wielded in two hands for extra Str bonus to damage, then Quickdraw his shortsword for next round's full attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's debatable <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>To draw a wand, you use the Draw a Weapon move action: </p><p></p><p><em><strong>Draw or Sheathe a Weapon</strong></em></p><p><em>Drawing a weapon so that you can use it in combat, or putting it away so that you have a free hand, requires a move action. <strong>This action also applies to weapon-like objects carried in easy reach, such as wands.</strong> If your weapon or weapon-like object is stored in a pack or otherwise out of easy reach, treat this action as retrieving a stored item.</em></p><p></p><p>The action refers to "weapon or weapon-like object".</p><p></p><p>The Quick Draw feat, on the other hand...</p><p></p><p><em><strong>QUICK DRAW [GENERAL]</strong></em></p><p><em>Benefit: You can <strong>draw a weapon</strong> as a free action instead of as a move action. </em></p><p></p><p>... does not.</p><p></p><p>Now, it can be argued that when Quick Draw says "You can draw a weapon", it is referring not to 'drawing a weapon', but rather to the 'Draw a Weapon action'. In which case wands are included, since the Draw a Weapon action covers both weapons and weapon-like objects.</p><p></p><p>But it can also be argued that Quick Draw allows you to draw a weapon as a free action, while drawing a weapon-like object is outside the scope of the feat, and takes a move action as normal (or a free action combined with a regular move, with a BAB of +1 or higher).</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2149962, member: 1656"] First example that comes to mind - your longsword/shortsword TWFer can't use his shortsword on that standard action attack, but if he draws it while moving, it occupies a hand. With Quickdraw, he can move, strike with his longsword wielded in two hands for extra Str bonus to damage, then Quickdraw his shortsword for next round's full attack. That's debatable :) To draw a wand, you use the Draw a Weapon move action: [i][b]Draw or Sheathe a Weapon[/b] Drawing a weapon so that you can use it in combat, or putting it away so that you have a free hand, requires a move action. [b]This action also applies to weapon-like objects carried in easy reach, such as wands.[/b] If your weapon or weapon-like object is stored in a pack or otherwise out of easy reach, treat this action as retrieving a stored item.[/i] The action refers to "weapon or weapon-like object". The Quick Draw feat, on the other hand... [i][b]QUICK DRAW [GENERAL][/b] Benefit: You can [b]draw a weapon[/b] as a free action instead of as a move action. [/i] ... does not. Now, it can be argued that when Quick Draw says "You can draw a weapon", it is referring not to 'drawing a weapon', but rather to the 'Draw a Weapon action'. In which case wands are included, since the Draw a Weapon action covers both weapons and weapon-like objects. But it can also be argued that Quick Draw allows you to draw a weapon as a free action, while drawing a weapon-like object is outside the scope of the feat, and takes a move action as normal (or a free action combined with a regular move, with a BAB of +1 or higher). -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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