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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 6610162" data-attributes="member: 50895"><p>Yes, but there is a historical relationship to what real salamanders are and the fantastical fire dwelling salamanders - there was an actual belief that salamanders were beings of the fire element. I cannot point to the origin, but I do know that during medieval English history, one particular earl had fallen logs brought into a fireplace in the castle. When the fire was started, a salamander living inside the bark of the log was smoked out and crawled out and on top of the log furthest from the fire. The lord noticed this salamander and made the mental jump that the fire somehow summoned the salamander to the fireplace.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, in alchemistry tradition, the four elements were represented by elemental beings: gnomes for earth, nerieds for water, sylphs for air, and <strong>salamanders</strong> for fire (with the above origin story defining why salamanders were thought to represent fire).</p><p></p><p>So while I agree that salamanders having some true relationship to fire is actually silly in our modern sensibilities, there is realworld historical/folkloric source that make the D&D representation accurate.</p><p></p><p>The snake fox concept is modern - post 1940 anime movie industry Japan, and in no way having a historical/folkloric source for the concept.</p><p></p><p>As the concept creator and developer for the Rite Publishing Kaidan setting of Japanese horror (PFRPG), one of my major goals is to maintain and emphasize historical/folkloric resources for every aspect of my setting. (I know this is not every developers goal, so I don't mean to impose my development goals as representing every Asian RPG setting, I just want to indicate where and why my opinions are the way they are). I borrow heavily from Japanese medieval folklore and ghost story tradtion which is primarily 19th century and previous - the very rich and older Japanese mythic tradition. I don't need nor want modern (20th century anime) concepts muddying up the real folklore, so I'm very much personally against doing so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 6610162, member: 50895"] Yes, but there is a historical relationship to what real salamanders are and the fantastical fire dwelling salamanders - there was an actual belief that salamanders were beings of the fire element. I cannot point to the origin, but I do know that during medieval English history, one particular earl had fallen logs brought into a fireplace in the castle. When the fire was started, a salamander living inside the bark of the log was smoked out and crawled out and on top of the log furthest from the fire. The lord noticed this salamander and made the mental jump that the fire somehow summoned the salamander to the fireplace. Furthermore, in alchemistry tradition, the four elements were represented by elemental beings: gnomes for earth, nerieds for water, sylphs for air, and [B]salamanders[/B] for fire (with the above origin story defining why salamanders were thought to represent fire). So while I agree that salamanders having some true relationship to fire is actually silly in our modern sensibilities, there is realworld historical/folkloric source that make the D&D representation accurate. The snake fox concept is modern - post 1940 anime movie industry Japan, and in no way having a historical/folkloric source for the concept. As the concept creator and developer for the Rite Publishing Kaidan setting of Japanese horror (PFRPG), one of my major goals is to maintain and emphasize historical/folkloric resources for every aspect of my setting. (I know this is not every developers goal, so I don't mean to impose my development goals as representing every Asian RPG setting, I just want to indicate where and why my opinions are the way they are). I borrow heavily from Japanese medieval folklore and ghost story tradtion which is primarily 19th century and previous - the very rich and older Japanese mythic tradition. I don't need nor want modern (20th century anime) concepts muddying up the real folklore, so I'm very much personally against doing so. [/QUOTE]
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