Races & Classes spotted?

[Vigilance]

There's nothing generic about the selection of races in the 3e PHB.

It fits one and exactly one fantasy world: Middle Earth.

 

[Kintara]

Be that as it may (and not that I care one iota about whatever happens to Eberron which should be used to freakazoid PCs by now), what if you don't want dragonfolk in every game for flavour reasons?

Stiff biccies. They're in the PHB, you'll have to ban them overtly. Why they couldn't just farm them out to a supplement is a mystery. Oh yeah, gimmicks.

Look, there is nothing wrong with being disappointed about not liking dragonborn. But all the arguments you're making are the kind someone makes when they are disappointed when their favorite didn't get picked. The racial list has changed before, and there is a LOT of variety between tables. So much variety that it would destroy your brain! I can respect them for perhaps doing some detailed research on what people are playing and then giving their fans what they want.

I mean you always include the PHB races? ALL of them, in every campaign? Personally, I can do with out some of them sometimes, and have. That doesn't mean I hate 3.5.

 

[Rechan]

Well, at least you did as I requested, so I guess I should thank you.

Your kvetching is acknowledged. See you for 5e.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Point One: Can we do something about those pics? They're stretching my screen all to hell.

Point Two: I'd be stunned if the dragonborn in 4E had the same "You used to be something else on were changed" aspect of the dragonborn in 3E. It's an added complication in what's supposed to be a streamlined, easy-to-learn system. (And it doesn't lend itself to an ongoing empire.)

 

[Tquirky]

Nehwon and Lankhmar

Lankhmar is a city in Nehwon. But whatever.

What if I like demonpeople but not dragonpeople because the latter are lame-o furries? Well, you're kind of stuck with banning them, because WOTC didn't put them in a supplement.

Furries are popular, amongst people who like furries. But a lot of people HATE them.

 

[Kintara]

There's nothing generic about the selection of races in the 3e PHB.

It fits one and exactly one fantasy world: Middle Earth.

Not even. Center World, maybe. Or Ends Planet. The point is that it's more like a knock off of Middle Earth. D&D is really its own genre, and it evolves.

 

[Vigilance]

Lankhmar is a city in Nehwon. But whatever.

What if I like demonpeople but not dragonpeople because the latter are lame-o furries? Well, you're kind of stuck with banning them, because WOTC didn't put them in a supplement.

I meant Lankhmar and Sanctuary.

But whatever.

What if I'd rather not run a Middle Earth clone.

Because there's one, and ONLY ONE fantasy world that the races in the 3e PHB fit.

Sorry, this change is long overdue.

 

[Tquirky]

But all the arguments you're making are the kind someone makes when they are disappointed when their favorite didn't get picked.

No, it's the opposite - I want stuff not there, rather than there. There is a difference. It's like an unwelcome houseguest who you can't shut the door on without bodily throwing them out.

 

[Rechan]

Because there's one, and ONLY ONE fantasy world that the races in the 3e PHB fit.

Sorry, this change is long overdue.

Then you buy a supplement! The PHB should be the bland crap that is GURPS, because everything else is for fanboy anime furry videogame kiddies that obviously is where the market is going.

 

[Tquirky]

Because there's one, and ONLY ONE fantasy world that the races in the 3e PHB fit.

No, you're forgetting that Raymond E Feist Riftwar world whose name escapes me (but that's kind of cheating on my part because it's based on a D&D world). And I think there's elves kicking around in at least one of the older author's worlds. Can't recall his name. Very popular though, still seeing his books on shelves for decades now.

Are there gnomes in Middle Earth?

And anyway, the only reason why modern fantasy authors avoid the set of elves, dwarves etc. like the plague (generally) and come up with pseudo-name solutions like Trolloc or human variations with such specific differences that they sub in for dwarves and elves ala Eddings is because Tolkien Did It, and they want to be considered Original. DMs do this too and change the list for sake of being Original, but the default is a good generic default to fall back on. Make it less-than-generic and this changes somewhat. Actual dragons = classic...dragon furries = a bit like anchovies.