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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6176312" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>No, not really. Sadly, that is not the case.</p><p></p><p>In his youth, my Dad nearly got arrested as a purse snatcher as he came out of a church service where he had been working as an altar boy. When we moved to Texas in the early 1980s to open his medical practice decades later, there was a (purely conincidental, no joke) impromptu Klan rally on the street corner.</p><p></p><p>When I was in college in the mid-1980s, I attended a talk by a (white) European photojournalist about his long journey through all kinds of cities & townships in America. His pictures showed all kinds of great things about this country, but also places where segregation was still openly practiced. And I mean with signage indicating which water fountains and bathrooms and even stores where non-whites were not welcome.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, there were so many people who were openly supporting "former" Klansman David Duke in the Louisiana (my home state) governer's race that he and convicted criminal Edwin Edwards beat out incumbent Buddy Roemer to have a runoff between themselves. And it wasn't until after major companies started weighing in on leaving the state if Duke won that his numbers began to slip. See below.</p><p></p><p>And even today, I can guarantee you that there are still public places whare I cannot walk in the USA without fearing for my well being simply because I am not white. They are not so common as they once were, but they still exist. Sometimes, entire towns. We call them "sundown" towns- as in, don't be within city limits after sundown, or else.</p><p></p><p>Even on a less dangerous scale, there are still places where I get followed by store security...when my Caucasian friends do not. Or denied a test drive (or get ignored) when car shopping...most recently in 2003.</p><p></p><p>The last anti-miscegenation law was not officially repealed until 2001.</p><p></p><p>I live in the big city and this happens.</p><p></p><p>And its not a Southern thing, either. Big companies and even states are still getting dinged on this kind of thing. There are currently 3 lawsuits I know of filed post-2005 working their way through the court system dealing with real estate companies practicing commercial and residential redlining (the practice of refusing to show or sell properties to minorities in certain areas) and reverse-redlining (only showing whites properties within certain areas)- and they've gotten to the point that it isn't a question of whether or not it happened, but rather, how extensive the practice is and who is responsible. (IOW, is it company-wide, or just certain regions.)</p><p></p><p>Commercial redlining can also be seen in lending patterns- Dan Immergluck pointed out in 2002 that small businesses in black neighborhoods still received fewer loans compared to businesses in predominantly white neigborhoods of comperable business density, business size, industrial mix, neighborhood income, and the credit quality.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here, we agree. Like I said, I feel those people are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Their perceptual blinders prevent them from recognizing genuine improvements...and that acts as a speedbump towards further improvement.</p><p></p><p>Say what you want (elsewhere) about Bobby Jindahl, but the mere fact that he (a non-caucasian) won the governorship of Louisiana IS a sea-change from Louisiana politics from just 25 years ago.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6176312, member: 19675"] No, not really. Sadly, that is not the case. In his youth, my Dad nearly got arrested as a purse snatcher as he came out of a church service where he had been working as an altar boy. When we moved to Texas in the early 1980s to open his medical practice decades later, there was a (purely conincidental, no joke) impromptu Klan rally on the street corner. When I was in college in the mid-1980s, I attended a talk by a (white) European photojournalist about his long journey through all kinds of cities & townships in America. His pictures showed all kinds of great things about this country, but also places where segregation was still openly practiced. And I mean with signage indicating which water fountains and bathrooms and even stores where non-whites were not welcome. At the same time, there were so many people who were openly supporting "former" Klansman David Duke in the Louisiana (my home state) governer's race that he and convicted criminal Edwin Edwards beat out incumbent Buddy Roemer to have a runoff between themselves. And it wasn't until after major companies started weighing in on leaving the state if Duke won that his numbers began to slip. See below. And even today, I can guarantee you that there are still public places whare I cannot walk in the USA without fearing for my well being simply because I am not white. They are not so common as they once were, but they still exist. Sometimes, entire towns. We call them "sundown" towns- as in, don't be within city limits after sundown, or else. Even on a less dangerous scale, there are still places where I get followed by store security...when my Caucasian friends do not. Or denied a test drive (or get ignored) when car shopping...most recently in 2003. The last anti-miscegenation law was not officially repealed until 2001. I live in the big city and this happens. And its not a Southern thing, either. Big companies and even states are still getting dinged on this kind of thing. There are currently 3 lawsuits I know of filed post-2005 working their way through the court system dealing with real estate companies practicing commercial and residential redlining (the practice of refusing to show or sell properties to minorities in certain areas) and reverse-redlining (only showing whites properties within certain areas)- and they've gotten to the point that it isn't a question of whether or not it happened, but rather, how extensive the practice is and who is responsible. (IOW, is it company-wide, or just certain regions.) Commercial redlining can also be seen in lending patterns- Dan Immergluck pointed out in 2002 that small businesses in black neighborhoods still received fewer loans compared to businesses in predominantly white neigborhoods of comperable business density, business size, industrial mix, neighborhood income, and the credit quality. Here, we agree. Like I said, I feel those people are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Their perceptual blinders prevent them from recognizing genuine improvements...and that acts as a speedbump towards further improvement. Say what you want (elsewhere) about Bobby Jindahl, but the mere fact that he (a non-caucasian) won the governorship of Louisiana IS a sea-change from Louisiana politics from just 25 years ago. [/QUOTE]
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