raging vampires

[abaddon]

question how do undead rage? i mean they do not have a constituion score so what state would you use charisma maybe. the reason is i am planing on sending a barbarian vampire at my party and i was wondering what stats to use. sorry if this has already been addresed i cannot seem to use search so this is the fastest way to find out the info

 

[Grazzt]

Moving to Rules...

 

[Xarlen]

Oy.

Either 3 rounds flat, since they don't have a Con mod, Or use the Charisma, because that is what they use for Psionic Liches.

 

[Mr Fidgit]

wouldn't it be calculated exactly the same way?

the duration would be just 3 rounds (because of no Con score), and there would be no hit point increase

the vamp would still get +2 Str and -2 AC (although with no Con, they wouldn't be fatigued, right?)

 

[AGGEMAM]

Moving to Rules...

Please do not move anymore 'undead rage' threads here. Pleeeeaaase.

 

[Xarlen]

Undead Psions use their Charisma mod for Constitution powers. I see nothing wrong with using that for Rages, either.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

depends on how one percieves it

In my opinion a rage represents a burst of adreniline and extreme anger thus making it imposible for an undead to rage becuase of a lack of adrenenline.
How ever one could rule that a raging undead draws their energy from the negative material plane giving increased fighting capabilites. Allowing them to use their charisma modifier in place of their constitution modifier for determining the duration of the rage, but gaining no increased hit points.