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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4177418" data-attributes="member: 61231">Nice writeup!  To answer your final question:D&D to me has always been tactical fantasy combat wrapped in a free-form roleplaying package.  4E feels more tactical than 3E, but I really feel that exception-based rules will make it cleaner than 3E.  I don't think 1E, 2E, or 3E had anything to facilitate RPing, which is why I call it free-form.  I do think that 4E is going to help DMs that want to get more RP in their games do so, by giving them some basic groundrules to work with.  But I don't think any RPG can make you roleplay, unless you just remove all the combat.You bring up a really good point though--all of my games have ended with people saying the opposite of yours, "It FELT like D&D!".  I agree (and this is NO insult) that a lot of this probably has to do with DMing style.  I've done one delve from the player's side, and the DM was horrible--really, really bad--I wouldn't have liked any game he ran, and it sure as hell didn't feel like D&D.I think 4E makes it easier for me to drop into narrative style DMing than 3E does.  That is not to say that I can't run narrative style in 3E--but it felt like it comes easier in my 4E delves.  Time will tell, right?  I'm going to be DMing on Game Day for my local hobbyshop, so I'm jazzed as heck about that!Oh, and I'm running this adventure live at the shop this coming Sunday (normally I play over VTT), and here's my redone maps for it:  (My CC3-Fu is improving!)  Note the battlemap printout is a fast draft, greyscale, with all effects and lighting turned off--I was just making sure it would print correctly before I loaded the 110# paper and turned on the color.<a href="http://www.eugee.net/images/cc3/thestonetable.jpg" target="_blank">The Stone Table (VTT map)</a><a href="http://www.eugee.net/images/cc3/thestonetable.printed.jpg" target="_blank">The Stone Table (Tabletop map)</a>New question:Lighting effects, yes or no for battlemaps?  I was really trying to follow the SKG tiles style (so no light source shadowing) on this map, but after I had it all done (and looking plenty "SKGish") I decided to try out the light source wall shadowing, putting a light source on all the fires, plus one more to illuminate the dragon's lair (lichen), and I was pleasantly surprised with the result.  But it does make the rest of the dungeon kind of dark, and I'm now kind of swinging back and forth on the issue--especially since a lot of the detail is lost when the lighting effects are applied.</blockquote>

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