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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 7289055" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Preliminary notes:</p><p></p><p>- hiding is always subject to the DM, who determines if there are conditions that makes hiding possible (see general hiding rules in PHB). So if the DM says you can't, don't argue</p><p></p><p>- do not mix up cover and concealment in the same examples </p><p></p><p>1) Generally yes, but keep in mind that </p><p>(a) the DM can say the conditions are such you don'teven get a chance</p><p>(b) you need a successful Dex check to hide, moving behind the object doesn't mean you are automatically hidden, not even if you move behind a corner (you cannot probably be targeted thre, but you're not hidden for the purpose of getting advantage unless you win the check)</p><p>(c) getting out of cover can be ruled as "stop hiding" and lose advantage; actually moving out and approach (move close to) your target for a melee attack is specifically mentioned in PHB as normally losing the hidden condition UNLESS the DM says otherwise</p><p>(d) even if you are granted advantage, after attacking you are not hidden anymore. It takes an action (bonus action if you're a 2nd level Rogue) and another successful Dex check to hide again</p><p></p><p>2) If the object is less than total cover you don't need to step out. If it's total cover yes, you need to step out, or at least give up total cover for something less during the attack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 7289055, member: 1465"] Preliminary notes: - hiding is always subject to the DM, who determines if there are conditions that makes hiding possible (see general hiding rules in PHB). So if the DM says you can't, don't argue - do not mix up cover and concealment in the same examples 1) Generally yes, but keep in mind that (a) the DM can say the conditions are such you don'teven get a chance (b) you need a successful Dex check to hide, moving behind the object doesn't mean you are automatically hidden, not even if you move behind a corner (you cannot probably be targeted thre, but you're not hidden for the purpose of getting advantage unless you win the check) (c) getting out of cover can be ruled as "stop hiding" and lose advantage; actually moving out and approach (move close to) your target for a melee attack is specifically mentioned in PHB as normally losing the hidden condition UNLESS the DM says otherwise (d) even if you are granted advantage, after attacking you are not hidden anymore. It takes an action (bonus action if you're a 2nd level Rogue) and another successful Dex check to hide again 2) If the object is less than total cover you don't need to step out. If it's total cover yes, you need to step out, or at least give up total cover for something less during the attack. [/QUOTE]
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