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Ranged Power Attack. Viable?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kylas" data-source="post: 4502497" data-attributes="member: 58233"><p>A player in my campaign wants a version of power attack for ranged weapons. I think for STR DMG weapons like spears or sling it might work (I think there are feats for thrown weapons,) but for bow weapons it just doesn't work. I've tried to explain accuracy is the basis for ranged attacks. Giving that up wouldn't give you more DMG it might instead produce less DMG.</p><p> </p><p> Instead I've decided to come up with a version that instead of trading accuracy for DMG trades rate of fire. I'm trying to find a balance so tell me which of these, if any are balanced. I also need help with prereqs.</p><p></p><p>Ranged Power Attack</p><p></p><p>Prerequisites</p><p>Dex 15, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +6 </p><p></p><p>Benefit</p><p>Each ranged attack you give up that round gives you a plus N bonus to every other attack that round. E.g. A 12th level fighter uses this feat in conjuction with rapid shot. SHe gives up her 2 You must use the full attack action to use this feat.</p><p></p><p>Special</p><p> A fighter may select Weapon Focus as one of his fighter bonus feats. </p><p></p><p>A. N = 2 + # of attack </p><p>B. N = 2 * # of attacks given up.</p><p>C. N = # of attacks available that round*# attacks given up</p><p></p><p>Example 1 <span style="color: Red">Giving up attacks in red</span>, Ranger Using Rapid Shot</p><p> BAB +18/<span style="color: White">+18/+13</span><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: White">/+8/</span>+3</span> BAB +1<span style="color: White">8/</span><span style="color: White">+18/+13</span><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: White">/</span>+8/+3</span></p><p>Bonus A. +3/+3/+3/+3 +4/+4/+4</p><p>Damage B. +2/+2/+2/+2 +4/+4/+4</p><p> C. +5/+5/+5/+5 +10/+10/+10</p><p> </p><p></p><p> BAB <span style="color: White">+18/</span><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: White">+18/</span>+13</span><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: White">/</span>+8/+3</span> BAB +18/<span style="color: Red">+18/+13</span><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: White">/</span>+8/+3</span></p><p>Bonus A. +5/+5 +6</p><p>Damage B. +6/+6 +8</p><p> C. +15/+15 +20</p><p></p><p></p><p> Options A and B are pretty tame and are like that at lower levels. Option C might seem off balance but it's really a 20or 30 damage boost per round that you choose how to distribute. Another thing about option C is tha a lower levels this feat plus rapidshot essentially means you get an -2 to attack for 3-4 points per attack. This seems a little off balance to me.</p><p></p><p> Any thoughts on prereqs... or damage caloculation. Is RPA even a viable feat? Are there others out there that are more balanced? COULD THIS BE AN EPIC FEAT?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kylas, post: 4502497, member: 58233"] A player in my campaign wants a version of power attack for ranged weapons. I think for STR DMG weapons like spears or sling it might work (I think there are feats for thrown weapons,) but for bow weapons it just doesn't work. I've tried to explain accuracy is the basis for ranged attacks. Giving that up wouldn't give you more DMG it might instead produce less DMG. Instead I've decided to come up with a version that instead of trading accuracy for DMG trades rate of fire. I'm trying to find a balance so tell me which of these, if any are balanced. I also need help with prereqs. Ranged Power Attack Prerequisites [B][/B]Dex 15, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +6 Benefit Each ranged attack you give up that round gives you a plus N bonus to every other attack that round. E.g. A 12th level fighter uses this feat in conjuction with rapid shot. SHe gives up her 2 You must use the full attack action to use this feat.[B][/B] Special A fighter may select Weapon Focus as one of his fighter bonus feats. A. N = 2 + # of attack B. N = 2 * # of attacks given up. C. N = # of attacks available that round*# attacks given up Example 1 [COLOR=Red]Giving up attacks in red[/COLOR], Ranger Using Rapid Shot BAB +18/[COLOR=White]+18/+13[/COLOR][COLOR=Red][COLOR=White]/+8/[/COLOR]+3[/COLOR][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR] BAB +1[COLOR=White]8/[/COLOR][COLOR=White]+18/+13[/COLOR][COLOR=Red][COLOR=White]/[/COLOR]+8/+3[/COLOR] Bonus A. +3/+3/+3/+3 +4/+4/+4 Damage B. +2/+2/+2/+2 +4/+4/+4 C. +5/+5/+5/+5 +10/+10/+10 BAB [COLOR=White]+18/[/COLOR][COLOR=Red][COLOR=White]+18/[/COLOR]+13[/COLOR][COLOR=Red][COLOR=White]/[/COLOR]+8/+3[/COLOR][COLOR=Red] [/COLOR] BAB +18/[COLOR=Red]+18/+13[/COLOR][COLOR=Red][COLOR=White]/[/COLOR]+8/+3[/COLOR] Bonus A. +5/+5 +6 Damage B. +6/+6 +8 C. +15/+15 +20 Options A and B are pretty tame and are like that at lower levels. Option C might seem off balance but it's really a 20or 30 damage boost per round that you choose how to distribute. Another thing about option C is tha a lower levels this feat plus rapidshot essentially means you get an -2 to attack for 3-4 points per attack. This seems a little off balance to me. Any thoughts on prereqs... or damage caloculation. Is RPA even a viable feat? Are there others out there that are more balanced? COULD THIS BE AN EPIC FEAT? [/QUOTE]
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