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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9391339" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That's a fairly meaningless thing to say in the context of verbal spell components, which don't exist in the real world. The closest we have are various mystical/occult traditions, which vary hugely on how spells are spoken where they are spoken, from loud shouting and chanting, to whispers or not even vocalizing at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nudges.</p><p></p><p>And that's the problem. They never state how loud verbal components are, and when directly asked, have always evaded the question and left it up to DMs. So we're in this bizarre state where verbal components might be something you can whisper, or might be something you have to yell at the top of your voice, depending entirely on your DM and how they are feeling today.</p><p></p><p>I agree broadly that there is some suggestion that verbal components are non-silent but that's as far as it goes. And a lot of the suggestion is merely implied by the existence of Silence and Sorcerer metamagic.</p><p></p><p>Also problematic for WotC here, in this modern age - not everyone can speak - some people are mute or otherwise have limited vocalization capabilities. I don't think WotC wants them to be unable to play classes which cast spells. Do you think WotC wants that?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yup. D&D clearly functions fine without tracking this stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9391339, member: 18"] That's a fairly meaningless thing to say in the context of verbal spell components, which don't exist in the real world. The closest we have are various mystical/occult traditions, which vary hugely on how spells are spoken where they are spoken, from loud shouting and chanting, to whispers or not even vocalizing at all. Nudges. And that's the problem. They never state how loud verbal components are, and when directly asked, have always evaded the question and left it up to DMs. So we're in this bizarre state where verbal components might be something you can whisper, or might be something you have to yell at the top of your voice, depending entirely on your DM and how they are feeling today. I agree broadly that there is some suggestion that verbal components are non-silent but that's as far as it goes. And a lot of the suggestion is merely implied by the existence of Silence and Sorcerer metamagic. Also problematic for WotC here, in this modern age - not everyone can speak - some people are mute or otherwise have limited vocalization capabilities. I don't think WotC wants them to be unable to play classes which cast spells. Do you think WotC wants that? Yup. D&D clearly functions fine without tracking this stuff. [/QUOTE]
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