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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9455971" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>The rangers strength was never the problem.</p><p></p><p>And that's the problem.</p><p></p><p>The 2024 Ranger, like everything from the 2024 PHB, is shackled to the 2014 Ranger. And the 2014 Ranger wasn't weak either.</p><p></p><p>The 2014 Ranger was an average power class with a few very situational but powerful class features. It wasn't like the 2014 Monk or Sorcerer who have drastically undercooked numbers and have features that didn't work as designed.</p><p></p><p>Strengthwise the Ranger was near perfect. All the ranger needed was</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">More Spells Known</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">More lower level Spell slots</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Fewer concentration buff spells</li> </ol><p>This is what Tasha's and 2024 did.</p><p></p><p>The issue was the ribbon features. The 2014 Favored Enemy and Natural Exploration were exploration features which could be ribbon or powerful depending on campaign. You can't turn an exploration feature into a combat feature and not have the class skyrocket in power. See the Gloom stalker with Tasha's substitution.</p><p></p><p>Once they decided to give a rangers Expertise, the prospects of any low ever combat feature was cooked. It was over.</p><p></p><p>The only hope for the Ranger at that point was for Wizards to add a whole bunch of new content. But that was not the point of the new player's handbook. The new player's handbook was a revision of the old players handbook.</p><p></p><p>No excuse for the capstone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 9455971, member: 63508"] The rangers strength was never the problem. And that's the problem. The 2024 Ranger, like everything from the 2024 PHB, is shackled to the 2014 Ranger. And the 2014 Ranger wasn't weak either. The 2014 Ranger was an average power class with a few very situational but powerful class features. It wasn't like the 2014 Monk or Sorcerer who have drastically undercooked numbers and have features that didn't work as designed. Strengthwise the Ranger was near perfect. All the ranger needed was [LIST=1] [*]More Spells Known [*]More lower level Spell slots [*]Fewer concentration buff spells [/LIST] This is what Tasha's and 2024 did. The issue was the ribbon features. The 2014 Favored Enemy and Natural Exploration were exploration features which could be ribbon or powerful depending on campaign. You can't turn an exploration feature into a combat feature and not have the class skyrocket in power. See the Gloom stalker with Tasha's substitution. Once they decided to give a rangers Expertise, the prospects of any low ever combat feature was cooked. It was over. The only hope for the Ranger at that point was for Wizards to add a whole bunch of new content. But that was not the point of the new player's handbook. The new player's handbook was a revision of the old players handbook. No excuse for the capstone. [/QUOTE]
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