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<blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 9456151" data-attributes="member: 6801299"><p>lots of classes got abilities that were not there in 2014</p><p></p><p>nothing is FREE.</p><p>everything has a cost of not getting something else instead.(more skills, more feats, more expertise, more Bonus action options, more "insert something here")</p><p></p><p>the math of 2024 and 2014 is not the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>yes, that is true, however</p><p></p><p>with mandatory usage of HM you must calculate to spend those usages or you are wasting your class resources if not spent.</p><p>if you got extra 1st level spell slots for RANGER SPELLS ONLY, equal to extra HM usages, that would be OK.</p><p>there is 1st level spells without Conc that you could sprinkle in over the day</p><p></p><p>waiting 19 levels to get +2 damage(on hit) that is wasting concentration is not something to look forward.</p><p>If I take 1st level of rogue, I would get 2 chances to apply once instance of +1d6, and a skill and 2 expertise abd what else rogue gets at 1st level.</p><p></p><p>you know your capstone is bad if 1st level multiclass beats it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Horwath, post: 9456151, member: 6801299"] lots of classes got abilities that were not there in 2014 nothing is FREE. everything has a cost of not getting something else instead.(more skills, more feats, more expertise, more Bonus action options, more "insert something here") the math of 2024 and 2014 is not the same. yes, that is true, however with mandatory usage of HM you must calculate to spend those usages or you are wasting your class resources if not spent. if you got extra 1st level spell slots for RANGER SPELLS ONLY, equal to extra HM usages, that would be OK. there is 1st level spells without Conc that you could sprinkle in over the day waiting 19 levels to get +2 damage(on hit) that is wasting concentration is not something to look forward. If I take 1st level of rogue, I would get 2 chances to apply once instance of +1d6, and a skill and 2 expertise abd what else rogue gets at 1st level. you know your capstone is bad if 1st level multiclass beats it. [/QUOTE]
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