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<blockquote data-quote="fluffybunbunkittens" data-source="post: 9460338" data-attributes="member: 7037492"><p>Yes, but the other casters' spell list isn't 90% concentration spells only. Let me just Zeph... oh. Let me just Ensnaring... oh never mind.</p><p></p><p>2024 at least made archers have <em>something</em> they could spend their slots on with Hail of Thorns becoming concentration-free (and no, it's not a great option). If they'd bothered to do that for the other low-level spells, Ranger would be in a better spot, instead of waiting until Conjure Barrage to be able to cast something else in combat.</p><p></p><p>As it is, forced Hunter's Mark is in direct opposition to Rangers <em>being a caster</em> (of anything other than HM). This should not be hard to see, given it's been the main problem of Ranger for 10 years, and now WotC only made it worse.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the player should be able to <em>choose.</em> I'm cool with letting people who want nothing other than do basic attacks and spam HM pick that, let me pick some free Goodberries instead.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's actually a good example of a bad feature being promoted so much, that some people start to think it is important to the class. Having dextrous telekinesis sounds cool, but seeing how the spell has Verbal components and a 1 minute duration, you <em>cannot</em> use it to do something sneakily and without drawing attention to yourself, and you often cannot take it into combat pre-cast (not that there would be any point to, before lv13)...</p><p></p><p></p><p>You really should have a look at the Ranger spell list.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I dunno about that - if we're taking into account a small percentage of players in the first place, I'm just a smaller percentage, so I guess I need to be taken just as seriously.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fluffybunbunkittens, post: 9460338, member: 7037492"] Yes, but the other casters' spell list isn't 90% concentration spells only. Let me just Zeph... oh. Let me just Ensnaring... oh never mind. 2024 at least made archers have [I]something[/I] they could spend their slots on with Hail of Thorns becoming concentration-free (and no, it's not a great option). If they'd bothered to do that for the other low-level spells, Ranger would be in a better spot, instead of waiting until Conjure Barrage to be able to cast something else in combat. As it is, forced Hunter's Mark is in direct opposition to Rangers [I]being a caster[/I] (of anything other than HM). This should not be hard to see, given it's been the main problem of Ranger for 10 years, and now WotC only made it worse. Yes, the player should be able to [I]choose.[/I] I'm cool with letting people who want nothing other than do basic attacks and spam HM pick that, let me pick some free Goodberries instead. It's actually a good example of a bad feature being promoted so much, that some people start to think it is important to the class. Having dextrous telekinesis sounds cool, but seeing how the spell has Verbal components and a 1 minute duration, you [I]cannot[/I] use it to do something sneakily and without drawing attention to yourself, and you often cannot take it into combat pre-cast (not that there would be any point to, before lv13)... You really should have a look at the Ranger spell list. I dunno about that - if we're taking into account a small percentage of players in the first place, I'm just a smaller percentage, so I guess I need to be taken just as seriously. [/QUOTE]
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