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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9460628" data-attributes="member: 7030563">With 2024 you can get 4 attack with nick and Dual Wielding, so we are still back to losing a bonus action and the damage that comes with it and that is before we consider multiple enemies.To outperform the old FF in the same scenario, considering chance to hit; in tier 3 you would need around 3 meaningful rounds of fighting without concentration on something better and I don't see that happening in a normal 7 fight day.  I don't see it happening in a 10 fight day.Like I said we will see.  My new Ranger is 2024 RAW.  She won't have Favored Foe and my bet is she usually goes to bed with free uses of HM from level 6 on.There is one thing that might change that.  Wrathful Smite is now Necromancy, not concentration and is activated on a hit (using a bonus action).  This means Shadow Touched-Wrathful Smite will replace Shadow Touched-Cause Fear on many Fey Wanderer builds and I plan to get it at Ranger 4.Because it is not concentration there is the potential to spam it which will drain spell slots faster than would have otherwise been the case on a Ranger.  Using more spell slots will make the free castings more valuable (and would have made favored foe more valuable).I still don't think I am going to use them all most of the time, but we will see.</blockquote>