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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9461843" data-attributes="member: 6750235">I think you already took the L on that line of argument when I demonstrated that rangers have one of the lowest ratios of concentration spells.  ;-PConcentration is something every spell caster deals with in their decision making.  Rangers don't need to be exempt from that choice with Hunter's Mark.It's the same with choice of bonus action.  Every character makes choices on how to gain and use those bonus actions.  Rangers don't need to be exempt from that choice with Hunter's Mark.We're also circling back to my point where you claim you don't want Hunter's Mark but expect it to be up all the time just because you have it, which is a weird premise.  Hunter's Mark doesn't have to be up all the time to make it useful.  Just use it when it makes the most sense to use it.  And since it doesn't have to be up all the time then it's okay to drop it for concentration and cast it again later or use a later bonus action for a new target; therefore neither concentration nor the action economy is significantly a drawback in gameplay for Hunter's Mark.Hunter's mark was the solution that made enough players satisfied for WotC to go in this direction.  I'm probably going to drop this discussion with you.  We're going in circles.</blockquote>