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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9477031" data-attributes="member: 59057">Ok. Lets do some numbers.I won't get defensive duellist, if my only concern is doing damage in tier 3. I will recast HM if it is broken.Stats at level 1:Dex 17Wis 14Con 14Str 12Up to level 3, same as treantmonk.Level 4:An extra 2d6+4 with 0.6 accuracy. If it hits, it allows carrying advantage from vex over to the next round. So about 7.5 damage per round used. Lets assume BA attack every other round. +3.5 damage. (about 19 dpr)That +3.5 damage will stay on top of Treant monk's numbers till level 8 where it increases to about +4.Edit. Magic weapon comes into play at level 5.On level 9, I'll cast magic weapon with level 2 slots for +1/+1. With 1 hour no concentration duration, I'd assume it is up at least half the time on the main weapon.Probably amounts to +2 DPR if extra accuracy is considered.Edit: you can already cast it at level 3 and add +2/+2 to damage. On level 13 losing HM is no concern anymore. Also MW is now +2/+2 in half the fights, +1/+1 in the others.(edit: you probably have mw up all the time at +2/+2)So I guess your hunter's mark damage is usable every round, accuracy goes up to 0.7, so that extra attack alone does 2d6+7 damage per round. I'd assume one every turn except for the first.So for a 4 round fight it is about +7.5 dpr over treantmonks calculations from this attack alone. Then add in extra accuracy for the 2 other main hand attacks, which is probably +4 damage (total +10.5) This is for half the fights. For the others I assume it is about +2 damage for normal attacks, +6.5 damage for the BA attack (+8.5). On average this is a total of +9.5 over his calculations.For level 20 the extra attack does 2 more damage on a hit. With 0.7 accuracy (magic weapon is +2/2 for all attacks now, maybe +1 for the off hand) and advantage, that is 1.8 damage more than before. So about 9.5 extra damage. Probably about +5 damage for the other attacks. So about +14.5, probably even 15 damage over treantmonks calculations.This assumes 4 round fights against a single big target like a dragon etc. And that the extra attack is the one without vex. And I didn't even think to facor in that the first attack would have extra accuracy if the vex attack hits.Actually I think, this time treantmonk was not really trying to maximise dpr.For the optimized build, I'll probably not go the fey wanderer route nor the beastmaster route as I have not enough bonus actions to spare.I'll probably just use the hunter and am happy, that I can add +1d8 damage every turn. (+4.5 damage) and some defenses.Overall I guess the hunter ranger will sit comfortably at about 65 DPR just using hunter's mark and magic weapon.Edit: I did an error... Magic weapon is level 2. So beginnng level 9 the ranger should have +2/+2 most of the time.</blockquote>

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