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Ranger (Hunter) is a Martial and Primal Controller
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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5346253" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Why can't rangers (especially semimagical rangers) shoot arrows made of fire?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My problem with the Seeker is not, even a little, about how it does what it does.</p><p></p><p>It's the same problem I have with the Battlemind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Martial Power is as much superman or the Flash or Wuxia as Batman. And now that classes aren't so intimately tied to power sources, you can have a "superman", or a physical warrior who has a few magical tricks, without delving into the iffy multiclass or bloaty brand-new-class territory for your lazer vision. I can now have, say, a Fighter build that is Martial and, say, Solar, who gets a punch that can knock people over, and a utility that lets him leap tall buildings in a single bound, and can bust out an encounter power that blasts lazer beams from his eyes, too. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem that both classes really (IMO) lack a reason to exist beyond mechanical tricks with power source and role. The Ardent has it to a lesser degree, too, but manages better.</p><p></p><p>Why can't my fighter be Martial And Psionic who gets to augment his fighter attacks with psionic tricks and is sticky because of a quick movement instead of a lock-down? Why can't my ranger be Martial And Primal who gets to light his arrows on fire and shoot bees at people? Why do I need multiclass or hybrid muckitty-muck to get to something that is clearly within the same broad archetype?</p><p></p><p>Those two classes especially struggle with the "no clear archetype" problem. This is a problem that neither fighters nor rangers have. They, to me, clearly fit under the sub-heading of "Fighters (who are psionic)" and "Rangers (who know magic)." </p><p></p><p>Why not just call a spade a spade?</p><p></p><p>This isn't so much the problem with the Warlord, whose "Scream At You A Bunch" is pretty distinct from the cleric's "Pray For You A Bunch." A leader who leads by voice and personality and combat ability is a pretty clear archetype. Though, for the record, I wouldn't have a problem with a "Champion" Fighter build that functioned as a Leader in the same way that the Slayer functions as a Striker. In fact, I think it'd be kind of fun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5346253, member: 2067"] Why can't rangers (especially semimagical rangers) shoot arrows made of fire? My problem with the Seeker is not, even a little, about how it does what it does. It's the same problem I have with the Battlemind. Martial Power is as much superman or the Flash or Wuxia as Batman. And now that classes aren't so intimately tied to power sources, you can have a "superman", or a physical warrior who has a few magical tricks, without delving into the iffy multiclass or bloaty brand-new-class territory for your lazer vision. I can now have, say, a Fighter build that is Martial and, say, Solar, who gets a punch that can knock people over, and a utility that lets him leap tall buildings in a single bound, and can bust out an encounter power that blasts lazer beams from his eyes, too. The problem that both classes really (IMO) lack a reason to exist beyond mechanical tricks with power source and role. The Ardent has it to a lesser degree, too, but manages better. Why can't my fighter be Martial And Psionic who gets to augment his fighter attacks with psionic tricks and is sticky because of a quick movement instead of a lock-down? Why can't my ranger be Martial And Primal who gets to light his arrows on fire and shoot bees at people? Why do I need multiclass or hybrid muckitty-muck to get to something that is clearly within the same broad archetype? Those two classes especially struggle with the "no clear archetype" problem. This is a problem that neither fighters nor rangers have. They, to me, clearly fit under the sub-heading of "Fighters (who are psionic)" and "Rangers (who know magic)." Why not just call a spade a spade? This isn't so much the problem with the Warlord, whose "Scream At You A Bunch" is pretty distinct from the cleric's "Pray For You A Bunch." A leader who leads by voice and personality and combat ability is a pretty clear archetype. Though, for the record, I wouldn't have a problem with a "Champion" Fighter build that functioned as a Leader in the same way that the Slayer functions as a Striker. In fact, I think it'd be kind of fun. [/QUOTE]
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