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Ranger (Hunter) is a Martial and Primal Controller
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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 5348055" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>The Battlemind and Ardent were tossbacks to 3.5s psychic warrior and ardent classes; both of which even in 3.5 was a psionic fighter and and a psionic cleric. (FYI: there was a psionic rogue too; the lurk)</p><p></p><p>The Avenger and Invoker felt a bit forced. While the idea of a divine assassin could support its own archetype; it probably could be a paladin build. While the invoker probably was a stronger archetype when there was a spontaneous caster (favored soul) and a prep caster (cleric) but in 4e's system, the classes could be done as a different cleric builds.</p><p></p><p>The Warden should REALLY have been a barbarian build. </p><p></p><p>The Swordmage though seemed a good mix of arcane and martial without resorting to multi-classing (and a nice nod to the elven F/m in basic). </p><p></p><p>I could also see the runepriest and the seeker as alternate builds of the cleric and ranger. </p><p></p><p>I could also see Warlock and Sorcerer rolled into one, but that's getting technical. A dragon-pact, cosmic-pact, chaos-pact, or storm-pact warlocks probably would have worked easily, but I don't mind them divided up into two classes. </p><p></p><p>Thematically; I see no problem with druid, bard, ranger, paladin, warlock, barbarian, shaman, warlord, artificer, and monk, either as separate classes and unique archetypes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 5348055, member: 7635"] The Battlemind and Ardent were tossbacks to 3.5s psychic warrior and ardent classes; both of which even in 3.5 was a psionic fighter and and a psionic cleric. (FYI: there was a psionic rogue too; the lurk) The Avenger and Invoker felt a bit forced. While the idea of a divine assassin could support its own archetype; it probably could be a paladin build. While the invoker probably was a stronger archetype when there was a spontaneous caster (favored soul) and a prep caster (cleric) but in 4e's system, the classes could be done as a different cleric builds. The Warden should REALLY have been a barbarian build. The Swordmage though seemed a good mix of arcane and martial without resorting to multi-classing (and a nice nod to the elven F/m in basic). I could also see the runepriest and the seeker as alternate builds of the cleric and ranger. I could also see Warlock and Sorcerer rolled into one, but that's getting technical. A dragon-pact, cosmic-pact, chaos-pact, or storm-pact warlocks probably would have worked easily, but I don't mind them divided up into two classes. Thematically; I see no problem with druid, bard, ranger, paladin, warlock, barbarian, shaman, warlord, artificer, and monk, either as separate classes and unique archetypes. [/QUOTE]
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