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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nahat Anoj" data-source="post: 5348656" data-attributes="member: 25075">I feel like the battlemind and ardent could fit reasonably well in the same class (both classes are even described as being impetuous and emotion-driven).  Perhaps the class would have defender and leader builds, much like how the Essentials fighter has defender and striker builds.Invokers could definitely be controller builds for clerics.  Avengers could work as either subclasses of paladins or clerics, but they do feel unique enough to stand on their own.  Plus, the image of Altair from Assassin's Creed is hard for me to shake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I see Warden as being more of a druid build (the whole shapeshifting thing), but it could work as a barbarian build.  In any case, I feel like the slayer does  the barbarian thing fairly well. While I could see swordmages as being a defender build of wizard, I also think they are a strong enough archetype to stand on their own. Definitely. Yeah, there's a lot of overlap between the two.  I prefer the term "sorcerer" for a person who consorts with dark entities (I'm not a fan of 3.x's and 4e's "magic in the blood" guy), but I deal with warlock.I'd love to see an Essentials style leader build for the fighter.  Yes, it would have a lot of conceptual overlap with the warlord (particularly the battlefront warlord build from MP2), but I like the idea of an especially rugged leader class.  The challenge is making this build feel like it's different from a cleric (IMO, the warlord doesn't feel all that different from the cleric).</blockquote>

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