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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rocker26a" data-source="post: 9266917" data-attributes="member: 7042495">But there are spellcasters that cannot cast Fireball or Cure Wounds. Because those spells do not fit them, outside of subclasses.But no, the class features are a better parallel to the, uh. Class features. Just like a Sorcerer cannot (and should not be able to) utilize a Spellbook, and a Druid cannot (and should not be able to) give Bardic Inspiration, a Barbarian cannot (and should not be able to) channel Ki.My argument isn't that these signature martial abilities are in their perfect incarnation, it's a common talking point that the martial classes lose out compared to spellcasters. But the answer isn't a free-for-all, where they can all step on eachother's toes.They already have features that shape their identities. They're their features. On their levelling tables.That isn't what I'm suggesting, because it's already possible and non-harmful to Battlemaster's identity, as I said in that first post on the subject. Rogue and Barbarian can take a Feat or multiclass to get maneuvers. They don't even have to multiclass into Fighter, just anything that gets a Fighting Style works. What I was arguing against is, Ranger getting specifically Maneuvers from their base class. That would weaken the Battlemaster's identity.With all that said, this is a + thread, so if we could get back on topic, that'd be swell!</blockquote>