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[Rant] Is Grim n Gritty anything more than prejuidice?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Shaman" data-source="post: 2251101" data-attributes="member: 26473"><p>That sounds about right to me.</p><p></p><p>I've used the trope 'grim 'n' gritty' without serious regard for a specific definition in the past - perhaps the contrast between 'heroic' and 'super-heroic' might be better for me, since high levels of lethality, which seems to be a unifying concept of grim 'n' gritty as described here so far, doesn't necessarily describe my approach. I think it's also in keeping with the idea that D&D is a game about heroes, and the differences in campaign-styles are by a matter of degree.</p><p></p><p>So what is the difference between heroic and super-heroic?</p><p></p><p>I've been thinking of examples in a couple of different genres. For example, 'heroic fantasy' could be represented by <em>The 13th Warrior</em> or <em>Dragonslayer</em> while 'super-heroic fantasy' would be closer to <em>Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon</em> or <em>Hero</em> (the Jet Li movie, not the Dustin Hoffman movie!). In the Modern genre, it could be the difference between <em>Ronin</em> or <em>The Bourne Identity</em> and <em>Charlie's Angels</em> or <em>Kill Bill, Vol. 1</em>.</p><p></p><p>Going back to the fantasy, <em>Lord of the Rings</em> would be closer to heroic fantasy than super-heroic fantasy (with the exception of Legolas sliding down the stairs on his shield or swinging aboard the <em>mumakil</em>) while <em>The Golden Voyage of Sinbad</em> would probably be around the midpoint between the two.</p><p></p><p>I haven't put a lot of thought into this - it just popped into my head on reading <strong>Steel_Wind</strong>'s post - so please be kind as you point out the foolish error of my ways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Shaman, post: 2251101, member: 26473"] That sounds about right to me. I've used the trope 'grim 'n' gritty' without serious regard for a specific definition in the past - perhaps the contrast between 'heroic' and 'super-heroic' might be better for me, since high levels of lethality, which seems to be a unifying concept of grim 'n' gritty as described here so far, doesn't necessarily describe my approach. I think it's also in keeping with the idea that D&D is a game about heroes, and the differences in campaign-styles are by a matter of degree. So what is the difference between heroic and super-heroic? I've been thinking of examples in a couple of different genres. For example, 'heroic fantasy' could be represented by [i]The 13th Warrior[/i] or [i]Dragonslayer[/i] while 'super-heroic fantasy' would be closer to [i]Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon[/i] or [i]Hero[/i] (the Jet Li movie, not the Dustin Hoffman movie!). In the Modern genre, it could be the difference between [i]Ronin[/i] or [i]The Bourne Identity[/i] and [i]Charlie's Angels[/i] or [i]Kill Bill, Vol. 1[/i]. Going back to the fantasy, [i]Lord of the Rings[/i] would be closer to heroic fantasy than super-heroic fantasy (with the exception of Legolas sliding down the stairs on his shield or swinging aboard the [i]mumakil[/i]) while [i]The Golden Voyage of Sinbad[/i] would probably be around the midpoint between the two. I haven't put a lot of thought into this - it just popped into my head on reading [B]Steel_Wind[/B]'s post - so please be kind as you point out the foolish error of my ways. [/QUOTE]
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