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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 2276395" data-attributes="member: 6533">As a side note, I'd previosly argued in that thread that GnG is inherently cinematic in that it's focused on character action and material sensuality and, in most cases, very detailed in that regard.&nbsp; A quality that cinema generally must have, that literature may have, and that I would argue every instance of GnG flavored media that's been used this far has.&nbsp; There've been two objections to that idea thus far:The first was that in a GnG game the DM can simply state a thing is GnG by fiat and ruling.&nbsp; Which I find an interesting theory as it implies a level of gaming aesthetic which is really very unique.&nbsp; The second is the sense in which Wulf is using it here where cinematic action is specifically over the top action.&nbsp;&nbsp; I generally have a problem with this interpretation only in that this is explicitly not the way that I was using the term and that I think the best use of cinema is to capture exceptional performances such as Fred Astair dancing or Olivier playing Hamlet or even the early movies of horses in motion in which case the essential cinematic quality is inherently a-over the top and the over the topness is simply an addition or elaboration on the basic action orientation of medium.&nbsp; For Wulf's argument it works just fine except that I think its a tad confusing for the discussion generally.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 2276395, member: 6533"] As a side note, I'd previosly argued in that thread that GnG is inherently cinematic in that it's focused on character action and material sensuality and, in most cases, very detailed in that regard. A quality that cinema generally must have, that literature may have, and that I would argue every instance of GnG flavored media that's been used this far has. There've been two objections to that idea thus far: The first was that in a GnG game the DM can simply state a thing is GnG by fiat and ruling. Which I find an interesting theory as it implies a level of gaming aesthetic which is really very unique. The second is the sense in which Wulf is using it here where cinematic action is specifically over the top action. I generally have a problem with this interpretation only in that this is explicitly not the way that I was using the term and that I think the best use of cinema is to capture exceptional performances such as Fred Astair dancing or Olivier playing Hamlet or even the early movies of horses in motion in which case the essential cinematic quality is inherently a-over the top and the over the topness is simply an addition or elaboration on the basic action orientation of medium. For Wulf's argument it works just fine except that I think its a tad confusing for the discussion generally. [/QUOTE]

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