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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 2352713" data-attributes="member: 7883"><p>I agree as well. Unfortunately, I personally find that manners are not being taught to kids these days. My hometown, which is a nice, rural suburb, is even having immense problems with things like vandalism, theft etc. which never used to occur. But increasingly lately, there are 14 and 15 year olds out on the street at 2 am, drinking, yelling, and being a pain. Everyone is scared to say anything, because of fear of having their own homes vandalised.</p><p></p><p>I was at my girlfriend's baseball game, and had driven to watch. A schoolbus drives up, and parks in the lot, and a busload of teens get out. Apparently on their way to some excursion. They've got beer etc. start talking, leaning against the cars that are parked there by the people at the baseball game, etc. Understandably, some of the people got concerned their cars would get scratched. One guy went to move his car, and the kids had beer cans sitting on his bumper. He asked them to move, and more just came and stood behind his car, until he literally had to push them out of the way with his bumper so they'd get out of his way......</p><p></p><p>I watch bad manners on a daily basis....</p><p></p><p>I was in Montreal at the Grand Prix etc. the other week, and rode on the subway. I'm never on the subway, as I have a car, and driver wherever I need. In any case, the subway was busy, and there were few seats. I happened to have one, and the subway stopped, and more people got on, including a young woman. I got up and offered my seat. She didn't even react....just went and found her own. I was told afterwards that people just don't do that (ie. get up to offer their seats to someone else). Nothing improper was intended by my offer. I was leaving the city, already have a girlfriend and was not trying to flirt. But I think she had some bags, whereas I didn't, so I figured it would be polite to let her sit down.</p><p></p><p>Of course, when I was in University, some of the women I know used to get really upset when guys tried to show manners...pulling out a chair, opening a door, paying the tab if you're out for coffee etc. because it was oonsidered "sexist". Then other women get upset if you don't do it.</p><p></p><p>Other things...drivers...my city has the worst drivers I've ever seen. Residential neighbourhood, and people are driving like they're in a race. I was working in the yard, and heard someone shouting. Looked up, and a block away at the intersection, there's a car turning from the main road onto our road. She's going slow....appears to be a mother with child in the front seat. The car behind has the guy leaning out his window yelling at her to hurry up, slamming on the horn, etc. Finally, as soon as he's got a bit of space, he squeezes between her and the median, passes her through the opposing lane of traffic on the residential street, and goes racing up the road...must have been doing 80 in the 40 zone.</p><p></p><p>Or, what's with the whole idea of asking people to do something....like ie. a BBQ, and then nobody responds...everyone is busy discussing amongst each other to find out what their "best plan" is for that afternoon. Then they basically let you know at the last minute, even though you gave them 2 weeks notice?</p><p></p><p>Or worse, someone agreeing to do something, and then their plans change....something comes up. But instead of telling you that unfortunately they can't make it, they avoid your phone calls, since they know they can't make it? Well, friggin' tell me you can't make it. Then I don't have to spend 3 hours sitting here wondering what's going on, and where you are!</p><p></p><p>Manners are definitely in short supply, IMO. It's really depressing, actually.</p><p></p><p>Banshee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 2352713, member: 7883"] I agree as well. Unfortunately, I personally find that manners are not being taught to kids these days. My hometown, which is a nice, rural suburb, is even having immense problems with things like vandalism, theft etc. which never used to occur. But increasingly lately, there are 14 and 15 year olds out on the street at 2 am, drinking, yelling, and being a pain. Everyone is scared to say anything, because of fear of having their own homes vandalised. I was at my girlfriend's baseball game, and had driven to watch. A schoolbus drives up, and parks in the lot, and a busload of teens get out. Apparently on their way to some excursion. They've got beer etc. start talking, leaning against the cars that are parked there by the people at the baseball game, etc. Understandably, some of the people got concerned their cars would get scratched. One guy went to move his car, and the kids had beer cans sitting on his bumper. He asked them to move, and more just came and stood behind his car, until he literally had to push them out of the way with his bumper so they'd get out of his way...... I watch bad manners on a daily basis.... I was in Montreal at the Grand Prix etc. the other week, and rode on the subway. I'm never on the subway, as I have a car, and driver wherever I need. In any case, the subway was busy, and there were few seats. I happened to have one, and the subway stopped, and more people got on, including a young woman. I got up and offered my seat. She didn't even react....just went and found her own. I was told afterwards that people just don't do that (ie. get up to offer their seats to someone else). Nothing improper was intended by my offer. I was leaving the city, already have a girlfriend and was not trying to flirt. But I think she had some bags, whereas I didn't, so I figured it would be polite to let her sit down. Of course, when I was in University, some of the women I know used to get really upset when guys tried to show manners...pulling out a chair, opening a door, paying the tab if you're out for coffee etc. because it was oonsidered "sexist". Then other women get upset if you don't do it. Other things...drivers...my city has the worst drivers I've ever seen. Residential neighbourhood, and people are driving like they're in a race. I was working in the yard, and heard someone shouting. Looked up, and a block away at the intersection, there's a car turning from the main road onto our road. She's going slow....appears to be a mother with child in the front seat. The car behind has the guy leaning out his window yelling at her to hurry up, slamming on the horn, etc. Finally, as soon as he's got a bit of space, he squeezes between her and the median, passes her through the opposing lane of traffic on the residential street, and goes racing up the road...must have been doing 80 in the 40 zone. Or, what's with the whole idea of asking people to do something....like ie. a BBQ, and then nobody responds...everyone is busy discussing amongst each other to find out what their "best plan" is for that afternoon. Then they basically let you know at the last minute, even though you gave them 2 weeks notice? Or worse, someone agreeing to do something, and then their plans change....something comes up. But instead of telling you that unfortunately they can't make it, they avoid your phone calls, since they know they can't make it? Well, friggin' tell me you can't make it. Then I don't have to spend 3 hours sitting here wondering what's going on, and where you are! Manners are definitely in short supply, IMO. It's really depressing, actually. Banshee [/QUOTE]
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