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<blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 2356916" data-attributes="member: 9298"><p>a few random notes about this thread,</p><p></p><p>do you know whats rude to me? </p><p></p><p>having every conversation fiilled with endless amounts of pleases, thank yous, your welcomes, and meaningless other pleasantries.</p><p></p><p>life is short. time is valuable, if i say "pass the salt" and not "pass the salt, you >censored<" then PLEASE is implied.</p><p></p><p>a thank you among strangers is OK, but it is completely unnecessary with people you are with on a regular basis (friends, family, coworkers, etc)</p><p></p><p>if someone is in your way, say excuse me, and keep walking. if theyre standing in a doorway or at the top or bottom of a staircase, its rude only if you dont tell them how stupid they are. </p><p></p><p>the problem with holding the door / giving up the seat and other chilvarous deeds is that since the 80s many women have decided that these things are more insulting than polite. if they cant make their minds up, i have no desire to play along. Add into this the problem of me being a big guy, and everyone being afraid that all strangers are psycho killers and its just not worth the hassle. </p><p></p><p>I've seen people expect that I should give up a seat on a bus or subway because I'm a "young man". Well, guess what. You have no idea what my health status might be. I could have a bad back, or a sprained ankle or any other problem that would be better off seated. Also, EXPECTING someone to give up a seat is rude. Why do I have to say PLEASE to get some salt at dinner, but you can't say "can i please have that seat?" The double standards are ridiculous. I've given my seat to anyone who ever asked for it. And, if I'm in a particularly nice mood, to stupid old crippled women or pregnant women. Of course, the general rule of thumb should be "if youre not healthy enough to survive standing up, DON'T ride public transportation"</p><p></p><p>The political correctness of America is another problem. Look how everyone wants to treat wheelchair guy differently than every other rude person in this thread. If you think he's rude, call him out on it. </p><p></p><p>Then look at all the dinsgenuity in the "politeness" that many businesses and condescending elderly people throw around. </p><p></p><p>And as one final note, the "bless you" thing DEFINITELY doesnt fly. Much like all talk of religion isn't allowed around here, why do you think you can get away with blessing people you don't know? I don't follow your god, and I don't want his blessing. </p><p></p><p>I'm very not-rude. I don't talk in theatres, I'm friendly and social with strangers, if you ask me to do something for you, and I can... I will.</p><p></p><p>BUT i'm not "polite". Polite is a waste of time. Polite does nothing for anyone. Polite is just one more lie that your parents told you. </p><p></p><p>Give me honesty and efficiency any day of the week.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevelabny, post: 2356916, member: 9298"] a few random notes about this thread, do you know whats rude to me? having every conversation fiilled with endless amounts of pleases, thank yous, your welcomes, and meaningless other pleasantries. life is short. time is valuable, if i say "pass the salt" and not "pass the salt, you >censored<" then PLEASE is implied. a thank you among strangers is OK, but it is completely unnecessary with people you are with on a regular basis (friends, family, coworkers, etc) if someone is in your way, say excuse me, and keep walking. if theyre standing in a doorway or at the top or bottom of a staircase, its rude only if you dont tell them how stupid they are. the problem with holding the door / giving up the seat and other chilvarous deeds is that since the 80s many women have decided that these things are more insulting than polite. if they cant make their minds up, i have no desire to play along. Add into this the problem of me being a big guy, and everyone being afraid that all strangers are psycho killers and its just not worth the hassle. I've seen people expect that I should give up a seat on a bus or subway because I'm a "young man". Well, guess what. You have no idea what my health status might be. I could have a bad back, or a sprained ankle or any other problem that would be better off seated. Also, EXPECTING someone to give up a seat is rude. Why do I have to say PLEASE to get some salt at dinner, but you can't say "can i please have that seat?" The double standards are ridiculous. I've given my seat to anyone who ever asked for it. And, if I'm in a particularly nice mood, to stupid old crippled women or pregnant women. Of course, the general rule of thumb should be "if youre not healthy enough to survive standing up, DON'T ride public transportation" The political correctness of America is another problem. Look how everyone wants to treat wheelchair guy differently than every other rude person in this thread. If you think he's rude, call him out on it. Then look at all the dinsgenuity in the "politeness" that many businesses and condescending elderly people throw around. And as one final note, the "bless you" thing DEFINITELY doesnt fly. Much like all talk of religion isn't allowed around here, why do you think you can get away with blessing people you don't know? I don't follow your god, and I don't want his blessing. I'm very not-rude. I don't talk in theatres, I'm friendly and social with strangers, if you ask me to do something for you, and I can... I will. BUT i'm not "polite". Polite is a waste of time. Polite does nothing for anyone. Polite is just one more lie that your parents told you. Give me honesty and efficiency any day of the week. [/QUOTE]
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