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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 2540515" data-attributes="member: 6390">Well, that's not actually true here in the United States. (I'm assuming that you are not a US citizen, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me)Child protective services have been known to press abuse charges upon parents who have taken away video game systems when the child got bad grades, removed children from loving homes because of 3rd party allegations of possible abuse, and jailed parents for children that run wild.There is a large, and growing, problem in many parts of the United States with parents being unable to enforce rules or boundaries upon a child. When a child is removed from the home, the burden of proof lies on the PARENT, not the state, to prove that no abuse was going on.This was badly abused in the 1990's, as children used (and still do) the system in order to get revenge upon parents. Meanwhile, people are insisting that children should be able to express themselves in public (usually through screaming and acting up) or are acting up due to some fault of the parents giving them enough love and attention, and many other things.You come from one end of the spectrum, where it sounds like it was honest and true abuse.I deserved EVERY SINGLE BEATING my father gave me. We're not talking getting a whipping for dropping a plate while doing the dishes. I'm talking 10 stripes with a belt for gluing my twin sister to the toilet seat and then spraying her with a hose.Before I lay my hands on my child, I make sure that I am clear headed, explaining exactly why this will be done, and asking if there is any other punishment that would be more fitting. The last spanking I gave, my 13 year old told me: "No, you've been telling me all winter, and this time I hurt someone doing what I've been punished for doing before."She was throwing the wood into the wood stack next to the stove when she brought it in, and a piece bounced off, hit her sister in the mouth, and split her lip. She had written sentences, done pushups, been grounded, had to take the wood back and forth 10 times, stood in the corner, ran around the block 15 times, and other punishments.She didn't throw the wood again, strangely enough.</blockquote>

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