It does, and also has about 10% less dumb humor. Why no one managed to tell Bay that it could all have been cut out and made the movie better is beyond me.
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It does, and also has about 10% less dumb humor. Why no one managed to tell Bay that it could all have been cut out and made the movie better is beyond me.
Dire Bare
Legend
I'll have to rewatch the first one again, but the "dumb" humor in the second movie really stood out to me. Robots with balls and the camera lovingly lingering upon those balls . . . groan. Not a fan of the characterizations of Jetfire and the stupid twins.
Overall though, I thought it was great! Lots of cool robots beating the crap out of each other! And the military was portrayed as extrremely competent partners to the Autobots, not losers that need space robots to save them, so that was nice (this was true in the first film as well). In fact, in the climax I'd say the US Military outshone their Autobot comrades!
frankthedm
First Post
An entertaining on the first watch 5. It can be enjoyed, but I won't call the movie good.
The beginning scene the movie feels like Bay wanted to do a G.I. Joe / Transformers crossover.
I am kind of wondering if the
was supposed to be a nod at a darker corner of the transformers franchise.
The beginning scene the movie feels like Bay wanted to do a G.I. Joe / Transformers crossover.
I am kind of wondering if the
tentacle tongue of the Cylon-decepticon
First, here's my bias, so you can all dismiss this 'review': I'm a fan of the cartoon from the 80s. 
So here are my thoughts on the movie, which I finally got around to seeing yesterday...
First, they didn't eliminate some of the things that should have fallen away in the first movie, namely the focus on the human side of the equation. I could care less about Sam Whitwikey and his parents. I care slightly more about Megan Fox, because I'm male and have a pulse, but her CHARACTER is completely useless.
The 'twins' should have been left on the cutting room floor, as they were useless, idiotic, and insultingly stereotyped. All the way down to the gold "tooth" and the 'We don't read much'.
Some of the bits were incredibly sweet. The new Soundwave -- that's a brilliant re-imagining of a great character. Similarly sweet was when the Constructicons came together into Devastator (original cartoon names, of course, don't know if they even HAD a name this time around). Optimus Prime, wading into a fight, early in the film.
Some of the movie hit sour notes. The continued focus -- as mentioned -- on the humans in the film. Why do we need them again? Especially with a cheesy romantic sub-plot best left to "Three's Company"... The proliferation of "cannon fodder" decepticons, most of whom didn't get names. Yes, the government has been fighting these guys for a while, so one would expect tactics to have improved, but still... that was QUITE an improvement.
And finally, the bizarre. A decepticon humping a character's leg? Really? At least Devestator's "scrotum" was mildly amusing -- those wrecking balls had to go somewhere during the transformation. Did we really see a transformer so 'old' he had a beard? Cause it looked that way... And my personal favorite -- African tribesmen, in Egypt, hunting a tiger. There's so many things wrong with that statement it's hilarious.
One final thought -- there was enough slow-motion of Megan Fox running across sand that I was wondering if I had stumbled into a Baywatch movie during one part of the film.
The point, of Transformers, to me, is in the title -- I'm here to see giant robots fight. It's not unlike a Godzilla film in that respect. I really don't care about the humans or WHY there's a giant, mutant lizard wandering around. The plot is really extraneous; if I want a thought-provoking movie, I know better by now than to go see something with the name "Michael Bay" on it. Or I'll go rent a classic. This is cheesy, action blockbuster at it's finest: An excuse to see giant robots beating on each other on the big screen.
Check your brain at the door, hit the matinee, and just enjoy the ride. (A tip: Pee before you sit down. It's a LONG ride.)
So here are my thoughts on the movie, which I finally got around to seeing yesterday...
First, they didn't eliminate some of the things that should have fallen away in the first movie, namely the focus on the human side of the equation. I could care less about Sam Whitwikey and his parents. I care slightly more about Megan Fox, because I'm male and have a pulse, but her CHARACTER is completely useless.
The 'twins' should have been left on the cutting room floor, as they were useless, idiotic, and insultingly stereotyped. All the way down to the gold "tooth" and the 'We don't read much'.
Some of the bits were incredibly sweet. The new Soundwave -- that's a brilliant re-imagining of a great character. Similarly sweet was when the Constructicons came together into Devastator (original cartoon names, of course, don't know if they even HAD a name this time around). Optimus Prime, wading into a fight, early in the film.
Some of the movie hit sour notes. The continued focus -- as mentioned -- on the humans in the film. Why do we need them again? Especially with a cheesy romantic sub-plot best left to "Three's Company"... The proliferation of "cannon fodder" decepticons, most of whom didn't get names. Yes, the government has been fighting these guys for a while, so one would expect tactics to have improved, but still... that was QUITE an improvement.
And finally, the bizarre. A decepticon humping a character's leg? Really? At least Devestator's "scrotum" was mildly amusing -- those wrecking balls had to go somewhere during the transformation. Did we really see a transformer so 'old' he had a beard? Cause it looked that way... And my personal favorite -- African tribesmen, in Egypt, hunting a tiger. There's so many things wrong with that statement it's hilarious.
One final thought -- there was enough slow-motion of Megan Fox running across sand that I was wondering if I had stumbled into a Baywatch movie during one part of the film.
The point, of Transformers, to me, is in the title -- I'm here to see giant robots fight. It's not unlike a Godzilla film in that respect. I really don't care about the humans or WHY there's a giant, mutant lizard wandering around. The plot is really extraneous; if I want a thought-provoking movie, I know better by now than to go see something with the name "Michael Bay" on it. Or I'll go rent a classic. This is cheesy, action blockbuster at it's finest: An excuse to see giant robots beating on each other on the big screen.
Check your brain at the door, hit the matinee, and just enjoy the ride. (A tip: Pee before you sit down. It's a LONG ride.)
TwinBahamut
First Post
Yes.
Megatron, Starscream, and Soundwave all live to fight another day. What else do you need?
Hopping Vampire
First Post
i give it a 2. the plot made no sense. the first hour of the movie was complete and utter nonsense. just a bunch of random clips strewn together. I found skid and mudflap insulting. the scene with the brownies was stupid. the movie was crap overall.
Darth Shoju
First Post
I thought it was pretty awful. I mostly enjoyed the first movie, and was hoping I could follow the prevalent advice for this flick and "turn my brain off" and enjoy it too. Unfortunately it was so aggressively cynical and puerile that I was unable to keep my brain in neutral. The robotic testicles (it would have been one thing if they had simply been a sight gag, but one character actually refers to it as the robot's "scrotum"), the horribly irritating autobot "twins", the humping robot...it's all just too much. Toss in that most of the transformers are mere background and props for the human characters (who are one-dimensional themselves), the bizarre plot inconsistencies, and the still (nearly) indecipherable action, and I found it difficult to enjoy.
But it did have some good points:
-Soundwave was fantastic. Ravage was cool.
-Megatron and Starscream had some solid scenes together, really playing up the classic dynamics of their relationship.
-Some of the backstory was pretty interesting.
-Some of the character models were really good and were more distinct than the first movie.
Overall I can't say I'd recommend it and I'm really hoping the rumours of Bay leaving the property for other movies is true. It seems inevitable that there will be another movie, so hopefully someone else can take a crack at it (and this time there won't be a writer's strike in the way).
But it did have some good points:
-Soundwave was fantastic. Ravage was cool.
-Megatron and Starscream had some solid scenes together, really playing up the classic dynamics of their relationship.
-Some of the backstory was pretty interesting.
-Some of the character models were really good and were more distinct than the first movie.
Overall I can't say I'd recommend it and I'm really hoping the rumours of Bay leaving the property for other movies is true. It seems inevitable that there will be another movie, so hopefully someone else can take a crack at it (and this time there won't be a writer's strike in the way).
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Just saw it tonight.....given how mixed the reviews have been, I wasn't sure what to expect. Was it a high caliber "film"? No. Did I enjoy it as a pretty decent action film, taking place in the world of Transformers, a property that was once dear to my heart? Yeah...
Some things about it I liked better than the first. I didn't find the twins as annoying as I'd heard. I honestly didn't pay that much attention to them. Were they silly? Sure? Were they cool? No. Did the audience seem to find them good comic relief? Yeah.
Not sure what was with the girl who turned into a robot. I didn't know the decepticons could do that.
When Optimus modified himself, I was like "here we go"......I figured he was going to be like Rodimus Prime or something. I guess that wasn't the intention.
Overall, I liked it.
Banshee
Some things about it I liked better than the first. I didn't find the twins as annoying as I'd heard. I honestly didn't pay that much attention to them. Were they silly? Sure? Were they cool? No. Did the audience seem to find them good comic relief? Yeah.
Not sure what was with the girl who turned into a robot. I didn't know the decepticons could do that.
When Optimus modified himself, I was like "here we go"......I figured he was going to be like Rodimus Prime or something. I guess that wasn't the intention.
Overall, I liked it.
Banshee
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