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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9272322">I like to be cordial in talking about games but I also think this is overstating things when it comes to people expressing a passionate opinion. Ultimately any expression of "this isn't x" when you are dealing with media is subjective. I think even the person saying that knows this. But we can also have robust debates about whether something captures the spirit of a setting or not. On the one hand, I don't want people feeling bad for liking other versions of Ravenloft, on the other it would be dishonest for me to say that I don't think there is a true spirit of Ravenoft that some versions don't capture or don't capture as well. That is still just my opinion. But let's not act like people having a strong preference for one incarnation of media over another are 'gross' or 'toxic'. When we do that we are putting them into he same category as creeps and abusers, something as innocuous as thinking Superman I with Christopher Reeve was the best version of Superman. A lot of people think real Ravenloft is the original module (and maybe also the House of Gryphon Hill). I don't agree, but I get why they think that. And if they say "That is the only real Ravenloft" I don't think it makes them  bad person. Just makes them a passionate fan of the first two modules</blockquote>