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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 7761541" data-attributes="member: 6670153"><p>Actually it has a soft ban list, as I understand officially Ravnica doesn't have Dwarves, Half Orcs, Gnomes, Halflings, Tieflings (that one was silly, Ravnica has fiends), Dragonborn, not counting planeswalkers, but you can choose to add them. Centaurs, Elves, Loxodon, Vedelken, Simic Hybrid, Humans, Minotaur, Goblins, Half Elves. If ones counts subraces, that is less opinions then just the pure PHB. It less then one could expect from Darksun for a setting that bills itself as a diverse setting. </p><p></p><p> And I don't even consider Ravenloft it's own setting, it's just a region of the Forgotten Realms Shadowfell now, instead of a completely separate demiplane. It even uses FR Gods now, like Lanthder the Morning Lord. Ravenloft is not the first setting to be fed to FR. Kara Tur was originally a completely separate setting, that FR simply devoured. FR ate part of Spelljammer, Realmspace. It ate Al Qadim and the Maztica from birth. The Cold Lands were originally part of a video game that later got added FR. The Moonshaes were not originally intended to be part of FR, someone decided to get Niles to make it an FR novel. </p><p></p><p> But I too knew that Ravnica and no other Setting would get proper support. Every single book in 5e so far, aside from the core 3 and some APs, is basically two or more books mashed together into one. The only thing that keeps this from being a disaster is the5e is such an effient, elegant system whose mechanics don't take up a lot of space. If 3e and 4e did this it'd have been unplayable. </p><p></p><p> MTOF is several Races of... style books mashed together, and then on top of it a MM style book, all mashed together. </p><p></p><p> VGTM is a player's option book mashed together with an MM. </p><p></p><p> XGTE is well named is a great Player's Options book, mashed with an Okay DMs book, with Shared World Advise that would normally be reserved for a PDF or something, and an aweful naming guide, which just pure filler. </p><p></p><p> SCAG is a FR Setting guide mixed with FR player's guide, which is then insanely starved of space even by 5e standards. </p><p></p><p> WGE is one part basic campaign guide to Eberron, a regional city guide for Sharn, and a player options book. </p><p></p><p> From the table of contents we know from GGR is one part Campaign Setting Guide, One Part Players Options, one part AP, one part MM, one part DM book, all mashed together and on top of that it should have been at least 100 pages larger. </p><p></p><p> Volo's Guide to Spirits and Specters will be the same way. My guess is it will be a VGTM style book that focuses more on undead and religion based monsters, like celestials, like you merged Avatars & Pantheons with open grave: secrets of the undead, a players option book, and an MM. Maybe some more stuff too. </p><p></p><p> This doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to GGR, I very much am and the only thing that surprised me was the loss of Vashino. I'm still buying it, I'm not venting over what could have beens, missed opportunities and the fact that they keep making the same mistakes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gyor, post: 7761541, member: 6670153"] Actually it has a soft ban list, as I understand officially Ravnica doesn't have Dwarves, Half Orcs, Gnomes, Halflings, Tieflings (that one was silly, Ravnica has fiends), Dragonborn, not counting planeswalkers, but you can choose to add them. Centaurs, Elves, Loxodon, Vedelken, Simic Hybrid, Humans, Minotaur, Goblins, Half Elves. If ones counts subraces, that is less opinions then just the pure PHB. It less then one could expect from Darksun for a setting that bills itself as a diverse setting. And I don't even consider Ravenloft it's own setting, it's just a region of the Forgotten Realms Shadowfell now, instead of a completely separate demiplane. It even uses FR Gods now, like Lanthder the Morning Lord. Ravenloft is not the first setting to be fed to FR. Kara Tur was originally a completely separate setting, that FR simply devoured. FR ate part of Spelljammer, Realmspace. It ate Al Qadim and the Maztica from birth. The Cold Lands were originally part of a video game that later got added FR. The Moonshaes were not originally intended to be part of FR, someone decided to get Niles to make it an FR novel. But I too knew that Ravnica and no other Setting would get proper support. Every single book in 5e so far, aside from the core 3 and some APs, is basically two or more books mashed together into one. The only thing that keeps this from being a disaster is the5e is such an effient, elegant system whose mechanics don't take up a lot of space. If 3e and 4e did this it'd have been unplayable. MTOF is several Races of... style books mashed together, and then on top of it a MM style book, all mashed together. VGTM is a player's option book mashed together with an MM. XGTE is well named is a great Player's Options book, mashed with an Okay DMs book, with Shared World Advise that would normally be reserved for a PDF or something, and an aweful naming guide, which just pure filler. SCAG is a FR Setting guide mixed with FR player's guide, which is then insanely starved of space even by 5e standards. WGE is one part basic campaign guide to Eberron, a regional city guide for Sharn, and a player options book. From the table of contents we know from GGR is one part Campaign Setting Guide, One Part Players Options, one part AP, one part MM, one part DM book, all mashed together and on top of that it should have been at least 100 pages larger. Volo's Guide to Spirits and Specters will be the same way. My guess is it will be a VGTM style book that focuses more on undead and religion based monsters, like celestials, like you merged Avatars & Pantheons with open grave: secrets of the undead, a players option book, and an MM. Maybe some more stuff too. This doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to GGR, I very much am and the only thing that surprised me was the loss of Vashino. I'm still buying it, I'm not venting over what could have beens, missed opportunities and the fact that they keep making the same mistakes. [/QUOTE]
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