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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6368511" data-attributes="member: 94389">One way to look at it: there is only ability checks, of which saves and skills are a sub-set. Thus the strange "Make a wisdom (perception) check" wording.So if a skill or a tool applies to that ability check, then yes, of course. To bend an iron bar...I don't see what skill would apply, but if someone had proficiency with a tool called "The Iron bar bending tool" and actually used said tool, then yes, of course. One could argue save could apply to bend the bar (which means certain classes get a bump) but I'd argue saves only apply to saves.</blockquote>